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Martin Oosthuysen

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There are no recorded deaths from a tarantula bite, but that does not mean it can't happen. One could die as a result of anaphylaxis or envenomation from a " bite" depending on how your body reacts to the venom

Which makes a lot of sense, but for me the bite doesn't bother me. I haven't been bitten by a pokie, but by other Tarantulas. How I'd react after receiving a bite,that's what worries me will I injure the T etc ?
 

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That what I always thought, what will I do if I got bitten, and to my surprise I just let the spider bite me even watching and talking to the lady while it was injecting it fangs onto my palm.


but if you have been bitten before then you should know how to react and what to inspect?
 

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That what I always thought, what will I do if I got bitten, and to my surprise I just let the spider bite me even watching and talking to the lady while it was injecting it fangs onto my palm.


but if you have been bitten before then you should know how to react and what to inspect?

Had the same thing happen a few times while doing talks. The once was a A.junodi that sunk her one fang into the last segment of my thumb and wiggled the second fang around till she got it into my joint. Waited till she let go (Around 3 seconds) and then calmly put her down. After about 15 min I couldn't bend my thumb as it was too swollen, but needed to put on a brave face. :)
 

Martin Oosthuysen

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That what I always thought, what will I do if I got bitten, and to my surprise I just let the spider bite me even watching and talking to the lady while it was injecting it fangs onto my palm.


but if you have been bitten before then you should know how to react and what to inspect?

The thing is, between the two occasions I've been bitten I've reacted differently weird I know but true. The first time I took it calm, the second time I had a reaction of shock. Will say this, not the Tarantulas fault on both occasions. Maybe,I've become scared after the first bite,and my body reacted with the 2nd can't say. I still handle some of my T's,and I am calm. Maybe subconscious ? I have no idea.
 

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I prefer not to handle my tarantulas. I handled my Grammostola pulchripes one time but since then I haven't handled one.
Its a personal preference, so what your are comfortable with that's all that counts. In the future you could come into a situation of a forced handling, and that's the catch 22 how would one react. I don't say handle a tarantula,but if you are capable I envy that.
 

Jake (Cascade)

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I can tell you for me, there is always this fear(Warning lights) in the front of my mind when any spider climbs onto me.

I never use to hold my spiders and still don't encourage it, but now I will try get the spider back into he's container before I try pick him up with my hands.
 

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I know I'm interrupting a bit of a conversation, so I apologize... I am just way too excited about this little guy that came in the mail the other day. First arboreal and I'm in love haha.
 

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Christell Erasmus

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all of my tarantulas are really calm and I could easily handle any of them. Like you said, its a personal preference. My sister on the other hand handles all of her tarantulas. I just prefer not to. I dont know, I guess I just feel like I am invading their personal space. I am just afraid that I stress out my T's to much if I handle them. :oops:
 

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I can tell you for me, there is always this fear(Warning lights) in the front of my mind when any spider climbs onto me.

I never use to hold my spiders and still don't encourage it, but now I will try get the spider back into he's container before I try pick him up with my hands.
Maybe its subconscious, but what I do know is there will come a time when forced handling could occur. So hopefully I'd handle that well, and looking at the specimens I've been acquiring some are fast some are very defensive and like the Feather leg baboon is aggressive which first I thought was just a story to scare me haha.
 

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I know I'm interrupting a bit of a conversation, so I apologize... I am just way too excited about this little guy that came in the mail the other day. First arboreal and I'm in love haha.
Haha,not interrupting at all great add thanks so much. Hope you add more in the future awesome T. Hope you find that Avics are great to have, I started with one and I can't stop adding. I'm already planning to add 2 more types soon, the addiction is bad. The worst part,two more types doesn't mean just 2 more T's, not going to get into that haha.
 
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all of my tarantulas are really calm and I could easily handle any of them. Like you said, its a personal preference. My sister on the other hand handles all of her tarantulas. I just prefer not to. I dont know, I guess I just feel like I am invading their personal space. I am just afraid that I stress out my T's to much if I handle them. :oops:
See that's the difference, you are prepared if need be. Which says a lot,especially for a future forced handling situation.
 

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I try to be prepared, luckily for me I only have very docile species. If I had some of the tarantulas you own I would also be a nervous. I am sure that when it comes to that moment when you have to handle a tarantula you would be calm and everything will be fine. ;)
 

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I try to be prepared, luckily for me I only have very docile species. If I had some of the tarantulas you own I would also be a nervous. I am sure that when it comes to that moment when you have to handle a tarantula you would be calm and everything will be fine. ;)
Haha,that's all I could hope for. Like I've said,don't want to cause harm to any of my T's not even the nasty ones.
 

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Handling tarantulas- no tarantula likes being handles due to the fact that their "sensory bristles" pic up heat, movement , temperature etc etc and they always want to move off your hand or try run up the arm and NEVER EVER try block off a Pokie when it runs on you, just take a deep breath and relax because if u do block of to catch u will get "nailed" for sure. I had made a handling video on the forums specifically with my metallica MF how to read when is a good time to handle or a bad time. They don't like being on another " living animal" that's why they try move off, bit because we love them as pets some species are just born aggressive and therefore not worth the risk. Any tarantula one handles comes with risk and the chance of a bite. Sometimes no warnings at all!!! Go look on the site at entomology YouTube vids on handling and you will see there and hopefully shed some light. P ornata are not as bad as ppl make them out to be. Trust me although they are common I recon the bite will be a painful experience, but handling them they are " chilled"
 

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Handling tarantulas- no tarantula likes being handles due to the fact that their "sensory bristles" pic up heat, movement , temperature etc etc and they always want to move off your hand or try run up the arm and NEVER EVER try block off a Pokie when it runs on you, just take a deep breath and relax because if u do block of to catch u will get "nailed" for sure. I had made a handling video on the forums specifically with my metallica MF how to read when is a good time to handle or a bad time. They don't like being on another " living animal" that's why they try move off, bit because we love them as pets some species are just born aggressive and therefore not worth the risk. Any tarantula one handles comes with risk and the chance of a bite. Sometimes no warnings at all!!! Go look on the site at entomology YouTube vids on handling and you will see there and hopefully shed some light. P ornata are not as bad as ppl make them out to be. Trust me although they are common I recon the bite will be a painful experience, but handling them they are " chilled"

See that's info some could use, even if they don't handle their tarantulas there will be a time a forced handling could happen. Well forced accidental, whichever you choose but trying to be prepared I feel is a must. No one can predict a situation, but with info like this and from the others in this thread we can be prepared up to a point. One has to remember from handling a pokie, to handling an Avic obviously the specimens will react differently. So I should know that anything is possible from handling a different tarantula.
 

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Trust me although they are common I recon the bite will be a painful experience, but handling them they are " chilled"

I really don't think you can generalize that. Specific ornata may be much more tolerant than other pokies, but calling ornata chill is general is dangerous, and in my opinion false. Of course this is comparatively speaking. If we're comparing it to your average P.murinus.. ok, I can see that; chill is just not the word I would use.
Personally, I think if you want a handleable exotic, you should get a chinchilla (I don't know crap about chinchilla so that may be false but you know what I mean) but that aside.. I just don't think you should call a ornata (or any tarantula with medically significant venom) "chill" new keepers are very impressionable.

as far as forced handling.. no such thing. You can always have a catch cup available or multiple cups (which is what I do) with a little patience, and preparation forced handling is a myth.

I'm not saying that your a bad keeper if you handle. this is purely my POV.
 
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