Club Avicularia/Avics

[Martin Oosthuysen]

I really don't think you can generalize that. Specific ornata may be much more tolerant than other pokies, but calling ornata chill is general is dangerous, and in my opinion false. Of course this is comparatively speaking. If we're comparing it to your average P.murinus.. ok, I can see that; chill is just not the word I would use.
Personally, I think if you want a handleable exotic, you should get a chinchilla (I don't know crap about chinchilla so that may be false but you know what I mean) but that aside.. I just don't think you should call a ornata (or any tarantula with medically significant venom) "chill" new keepers are very impressionable.

as far as forced handling.. no such thing. You can always have a catch cup available or multiple cups (which is what I do) with a little patience, and preparation forced handling is a myth.

I'm not saying that your a bad keeper if you handle. this is purely my POV.

Nada
There will be a time an unforseen incident will occur, that's why its unforseen. Even if this is due to the keepers own mistake, but things do happen. Accidents will occur, and no matter how prepared there's always a possibility. No one can for see the future, I've had times I had to handle a T I didn't want to. In all fairness its up to you yourself to be prepared via a catch cup etc, but that said we are human no one is perfect accidents happen hence forced handling.

 

[Nada]

I agree Martin, but there is no such thing as forced handling. If your handling because something happened and you were unprepared for it that's not forced, It's improvised. I have been lazy myself , but more often than not I have 4 catchcups within arms reach. My point is, that if you're diligent, you never have to handle, but you're right we are all human and things happen we forget, we take things for granted, and we get lazy; but the terminology of forced/necessary handling has always irritated me. Handling CAN be prevented.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

I agree Martin, but there is no such thing as forced handling. If your handling because something happened and you were unprepared for it that's not forced, It's improvised. I have been lazy myself , but more often than not I have 4 catchcups within arms reach. My point is, that if you're diligent, you never have to handle, but you're right we are all human and things happen we forget, we take things for granted, and we get lazy; but the terminology of forced/necessary handling has always irritated me. Handling CAN be prevented.

I agree,we should be prepared as much as is humanly possible. Why using forced handling as a description its not a necessity, thus forced by the situation. If you had a choice you'd want a different outcome,thus not a chosen one so the outcome was forced either due to your own mistake caused by lack of focus or becoming complacent or not being prepared. I'd like to add, I'm not saying adopt my forced handling terminology, but I can explain why I see it as this its up to the reader to see why and decide on agreement or disagreement. So other than that, we all agree at some level.

 

[ryan johnson]

Playing with my avic avic after work

 

[Nada]

I agree,we should be prepared as much as is humanly possible. Why using forced handling as a description its not a necessity, thus forced by the situation. If you had a choice you'd want a different outcome,thus not a chosen one so the outcome was forced either due to your own mistake caused by lack of focus or becoming complacent or not being prepared. I'd like to add, I'm not saying adopt my forced handling terminology, but I can explain why I see it as this its up to the reader to see why and decide on agreement or disagreement. So other than that, we all agree at some level.

semantics, but agree to disagree. I think we both see/understand where the other is coming from.. thank you for the respectful disagreement and discussion.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

semantics, but agree to disagree. I think we both see/understand where the other is coming from.. thank you for the respectful disagreement and discussion.

I believe its how it should be handled,respecting and not letting it get out of hand. Also looking at both sides of the coin, maybe some will take the positive from this and apply it.

 

[entomology]

I would like to say that" all species" of tarantula are unpredictable irrespective of genus. I have handled a few Ornata's and they are very skittish and love to run on you so yes for a "beginner" in the "hobby" I do not encourage them to handle such a species. if fact handling any tarantula comes with "WARNING" and as to their venom Anophylaxis can occur with any tarantula bite which venom has the least potentially known petites and can have a lethal consequence.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

My Avicularia Laeta/Puerto Rican Pink Toe

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

My Avicularia Avicularia/Guyana Pink Toe Just molted,will take better pictures later don't want to disturb her too much.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

My larger Avicularia Avicularia/Guyana Pink toe

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

My Avicularia Bicegoi/Brick Red Pink Toe

Will take a better photo,she is going into pre-molt so I don't want to disturb her too much.

 

[entomology]

Very nice pics they bud!!!

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Very nice pics they bud!!!

Thank you,I will try and take better ones as soon as those who are in pre-molt actually molt and those that have molted harden.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

New Versi Color just received it.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Another Azuraklaasi just received it.

Receiving it,I noticed it was in pre molt due to the darker legs. It has molted as I suspected,this morning 5am South African time. I'd like to address something,when I received I suspected it needed hydration. So I did this,after its molt it was stuck with one leg. To rectify this,I used a small paint brush and lightly dabbed the affected leg. I'm glad to report,molt removed leg okay. This was my first time ever to see a bad molt. So please make sure humidity is always correct,not saying you'd be at fault,but whoever supplied it could have had too little humidity causing what I experienced.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Another sp. Peru Purple just received it.

 

[ryan johnson]

So I don't think my avic is eating. Does it look like she's is

 

[ryan johnson]

So I don't think my avic is eating. Does it look like she's is molting

 

[ryan johnson]

I mean pre-molt

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Could you take a better photo of her ? With Avic slings its easy to see a pre molt,since the legs darken.