Well I agree with you both, unfortunately there are some who don't.The whole subject was originally started by this thread http://www.tarantulaforum.com/threads/mods.7121/. Concern raised by members not admin because of the amount of spam appearing and that led to worries about the forum folding due to the bills not getting paid, Josh has set our minds at rest on that score. I feel if we continue as before there would be no need for the mods to intervene to any extent.
Of course something being legal doesn't always make it okay. It's legal to scream insults at someone, to cheat on your spouse and to squish tarantulas. None of those things is okay. I am saying though, that you agreed to follow a code of conduct when you joined this forum and your continued use of the forum is contingent upon you following those rules. That's a voluntary agreement to limit your speech in exchange for the privilege of posting here. A contract absolutely can supersede your rights in practice. Whether or not it SHOULD is a different discussion, and I don't think a tarantula forum is the best setting for changing the world. I am now a little curious about how you react to people who assert their rights when stopped by an officer.You misunderstand me. I know the differences very well. Because its "legal" to make up little rules on a forum doesn't make it ok. Just because somethings legal, or accepted as normal, doesn't make it right. I worked in law enforcement for ten years, I'm very much aware of when my rights apply, Thistles. The Constitution doesn't apply to everything, but the ideals in it do. When you start picking away at where you want to apply it and where you don't you've already lost. I didn't give up any rights when I joined this forum..not sure where you got that idea, but no kind of contract for services somehow supersedes my rights.
You're the bully. That might be why you missed it. There were mods before you joined who have more recently been absent. This temporary freedom from oversight is not the norm on this forum. The cat is away, so you've been playing. Do I care about swearing? Do I mind insults? Personally, no. I think I handled a previous onslaught from you just fine. However, YOU agreed to the rules. If the admin wants to change the rules, that's fine with me. As it is now, the rules seem to indicate that this would be an appropriate forum for anyone, so people have been directing children to reference this forum rather than some others due to the friendly and forgiving atmosphere. If things change, I might not recommend my young cousin use this forum, for example. Sure, she might get made fun of or scolded for poor husbandry on another forum, but at least she won't get cussed out. I'll keep looking for an appropriate forum for a 13 year old.This is getting a little off base though, what I want to know is this: Why do ya'll feel the need to be policed? Are you afraid of something? Has there been some bullying I missed? The only thing wrong here is some recent spam. So what if some troll starts trolling, or 2 people get in an argument? So what?? Never mind, the admin has already decided we need mods, I'm wasting my time. I just don't get it..One of the reasons I always liked this forum was that it was mostly always relaxed, people just come to chill and share their experiences and chat. There are no alarmist moderators deleting and censoring threads, altering posts, that kind of stupid, petty crap that certain "types" of people are so fond of, simply because they don't agree with something contained in them( I thought long and hard on that sentence so I didn't use insults and curse words).. I like how the majority of the people calling for mods are regulars at other forums..that is very telling indeed .. thanks for your input, folks. We need more forums exactly like yours...
I'm the bully? My over reaction to your earlier arrogant post was response to you acting like a douche, lets not lose sight of that. Just like now, you don't agree with me arguing about moderators, so I'm a bully...and you just implied I somehow violate peoples rights? Are you serious? You argue for the sake of it Thistles. If my descriptions somehow made you feel I was talking about you,perhaps its time for some inner reflection. And like I said when I apologized to you for not expressing myself better, it wont happen again, regardless of you making accusations. You never address any valid points anyway, when you argue with me. Bully...that's hilarious...thanks for trying to degenerate this into name-calling again. Save that stuff for ab please.Of course something being legal doesn't always make it okay. It's legal to scream insults at someone, to cheat on your spouse and to squish tarantulas. None of those things is okay. I am saying though, that you agreed to follow a code of conduct when you joined this forum and your continued use of the forum is contingent upon you following those rules. That's a voluntary agreement to limit your speech in exchange for the privilege of posting here. A contract absolutely can supersede your rights in practice. Whether or not it SHOULD is a different discussion, and I don't think a tarantula forum is the best setting for changing the world. I am now a little curious about how you react to people who assert their rights when stopped by an officer.
You're the bully. That might be why you missed it. There were mods before you joined who have more recently been absent. This temporary freedom from oversight is not the norm on this forum. The cat is away, so you've been playing. Do I care about swearing? Do I mind insults? Personally, no. I think I handled a previous onslaught from you just fine. However, YOU agreed to the rules. If the admin wants to change the rules, that's fine with me. As it is now, the rules seem to indicate that this would be an appropriate forum for anyone, so people have been directing children to reference this forum rather than some others due to the friendly and forgiving atmosphere. If things change, I might not recommend my young cousin use this forum, for example. Sure, she might get made fun of or scolded for poor husbandry on another forum, but at least she won't get cussed out. I'll keep looking for an appropriate forum for a 13 year old.
I hope I'm not the one being referenced in the "regular at other forums" as I haven't had time to post on any forums for the last 2 months.
Telling people to keep both sides in mind isn't douchey, imo. Of course, your opinion differs. That's fine.I'm the bully? My over reaction to your earlier arrogant post was response to you acting like a douche, lets not lose sight of that. Just like now, you don't agree with me arguing about moderators, so I'm a bully...and you just implied I somehow violate peoples rights? Are you serious? You argue for the sake of it Thistles. If my descriptions somehow made you feel I was talking about you,perhaps its time for some inner reflection. And like I said when I apologized to you for not expressing myself better, it wont happen again, regardless of you making accusations. You never address any valid points anyway, when you argue with me. Bully...that's hilarious...thanks for trying to degenerate this into name-calling again. Save that stuff for ab please.
Aaahaha haha hahaaaaaYes, because the problem with AB is that it's too civil...
Oh gosh! Has AB gotten that bad??? Lol....I'm like way off subject here. Anyway, I feel like all rules should be followed in a forum. It's why the rules were put there in the first place. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone. It's just my input on the whole thing. As long as rules are followed accordingly, we shouldn't need mods but when you have people that are like "rules were meant to be broken", then that's when the mods need to step in. Otherwise, no one should've wasted their time posting rules in the first place......that's just my opinion.I'm the bully? My over reaction to your earlier arrogant post was response to you acting like a douche, lets not lose sight of that. Just like now, you don't agree with me arguing about moderators, so I'm a bully...and you just implied I somehow violate peoples rights? Are you serious? You argue for the sake of it Thistles. If my descriptions somehow made you feel I was talking about you,perhaps its time for some inner reflection. And like I said when I apologized to you for not expressing myself better, it wont happen again, regardless of you making accusations. You never address any valid points anyway, when you argue with me. Bully...that's hilarious...thanks for trying to degenerate this into name-calling again. Save that stuff for ab please.
Interesting!!!! Who moderates the mods??? Someone call a referee!!!Holy crap i think our future moderators need moderators! LMAO!