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James1975

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And that is totally fine. It is thought they don't feel pain like we do, so it's not cruel to keep her alive. It all boils down to personal choice. There is no right or wrong decision in these circumstances.
I know I've tried to move her it's like she is in a trance but in the last minute she has pulled her legs out from under her.is that a good sigh or not.i just don't know what to do for the best.if that other option is do able how would u do it.
 

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I know I've tried to move her it's like she is in a trance but in the last minute she has pulled her legs out from under her.is that a good sigh or not.i just don't know what to do for the best.if that other option is do able how would u do it.

Sorry to ask but could you describe how she was sitting after you flipped her over the right way up (ie was she unable to support her weight and were all her legs curling in under her body).

If she has pulled her legs out can you please post a picture. May be a sign she is now trying to stand. But no need to try to move her yet, will only stress her.

I'm hovering between injury or exposure to some sort of chemical or pesticide. Tarantula can be harmed by insect sprays (Inc fly sprays and spot on dog/cat flea treatments), air fresheners, possibly essential oils, harsh cleaning products if used to clean their enclosures, you name it. If it is poisoning by chemical exposure it would be very difficult to pinpoint the cause. If you bought new feeders from a petshop they could have been exposed to something etc. I'm only mentioning it because if it is poisoning there is a small chance that after working its way through her system she could recover.

I'm not saying these things are definitely what's wrong, just my guesses.

Maybe it would be worth leaving it a few more days If you leave her with her mouthparts in water she can drink and you won't have to stress her by turning her to give fluid. As long as the underneath of her abdomen is not in the water, there is no chance of her drowning.

Leave her in total peace and quiet and give her a chance to mend herself for a few more days.

Euthanasia can be done if the time comes by placing her in a container lined with dry kitchen towel, then putting her in the fridge overnight. She will go to sleep. Then put the container in the freezer until frozen solid which will end life. There are other ways of doing it, but this is the method many keepers prefer as being humane.
 

James1975

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Sorry to ask but could you describe how she was sitting after you flipped her over the right way up (ie was she unable to support her weight and were all her legs curling in under her body).

If she has pulled her legs out can you please post a picture. May be a sign she is now trying to stand. But no need to try to move her yet, will only stress her.

I'm hovering between injury or exposure to some sort of chemical or pesticide. Tarantula can be harmed by insect sprays (Inc fly sprays and spot on dog/cat flea treatments), air fresheners, possibly essential oils, harsh cleaning products if used to clean their enclosures, you name it. If it is poisoning by chemical exposure it would be very difficult to pinpoint the cause. If you bought new feeders from a petshop they could have been exposed to something etc. I'm only mentioning it because if it is poisoning there is a small chance that after working its way through her system she could recover.

I'm not saying these things are definitely what's wrong, just my guesses.

Maybe it would be worth leaving it a few more days If you leave her with her mouthparts in water she can drink and you won't have to stress her by turning her to give fluid. As long as the underneath of her abdomen is not in the water, there is no chance of her drowning.

Leave her in total peace and quiet and give her a chance to mend herself for a few more days.

Euthanasia can be done if the time comes by placing her in a container lined with dry kitchen towel, then putting her in the fridge overnight. She will go to sleep. Then put the container in the freezer until frozen solid which will end life. There are other ways of doing it, but this is the method many keepers prefer as being humane.
thanks I will try and put water by her mouth and see.when I finish work I will take pic of her and see what u think.it does look like she can't support her body.
 

Sonicookie

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Moving her legs out from under her sounds like a good sign but we'll have to see the picture. I'm glad there's still hope!
 

James1975

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Moving her legs out from under her sounds like a good sign but we'll have to see the picture. I'm glad there's still hope!
Here is the pic
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James1975

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Sorry to ask but could you describe how she was sitting after you flipped her over the right way up (ie was she unable to support her weight and were all her legs curling in under her body).

If she has pulled her legs out can you please post a picture. May be a sign she is now trying to stand. But no need to try to move her yet, will only stress her.

I'm hovering between injury or exposure to some sort of chemical or pesticide. Tarantula can be harmed by insect sprays (Inc fly sprays and spot on dog/cat flea treatments), air fresheners, possibly essential oils, harsh cleaning products if used to clean their enclosures, you name it. If it is poisoning by chemical exposure it would be very difficult to pinpoint the cause. If you bought new feeders from a petshop they could have been exposed to something etc. I'm only mentioning it because if it is poisoning there is a small chance that after working its way through her system she could recover.

I'm not saying these things are definitely what's wrong, just my guesses.

Maybe it would be worth leaving it a few more days If you leave her with her mouthparts in water she can drink and you won't have to stress her by turning her to give fluid. As long as the underneath of her abdomen is not in the water, there is no chance of her drowning.

Leave her in total peace and quiet and give her a chance to mend herself for a few more days.

Euthanasia can be done if the time comes by placing her in a container lined with dry kitchen towel, then putting her in the fridge overnight. She will go to sleep. Then put the container in the freezer until frozen solid which will end life. There are other ways of doing it, but this is the method many keepers prefer as being humane.
hi there so I get back from work have her some water and tried to get her to move not much response the she started to stretch her legs so my guess would be injury or she can not support her body.i did send pic of her.i will send u another one.
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beautiful spider! She looks fine to me, maybe just stressed out. Just make sure she has easy access to water and my guess is she will be back to normal eventually.
 

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Cheers hope fully she will be she hasn't moved from that spot I will give her time .

Cheers for the pics. They show a spider capable of movement, the last one it's changed into a stress position (normal). No sign of dehydration or death curl. Very promising.
 

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Cheers for the pics. They show a spider capable of movement, the last one it's changed into a stress position (normal). No sign of dehydration or death curl. Very promising.
Yeah but I'm still worried as she does not move around the enclosure just stays in the same place.im hoping it's just a stress position.but what has caused this problem I wonder.
 

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PS. She's capable of supporting her body and doing so in the pictures. Looks like she's on the mend from whatever it was! Keep the water dish near her, don't try to get her moving. Give it a week and try feeding again. :)
 

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Yeah but I'm still worried as she does not move around the enclosure just stays in the same place.im hoping it's just a stress position.but what has caused this problem I wonder.

Earlier you mentioned that one of her legs looked injured. Can you describe, ie. which leg and what was it about it that made you think it was injured? Does that leg still look injured? I know it's hard to tell when she's not moving much but is there a physical injury on it or is she holding it in a weird way compared to the others? (Was it the 3rd one on the left, I'm just guessing now, got a 7/8 chance of getting it right :))
 

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Earlier you mentioned that one of her legs looked injured. Can you describe, ie. which leg and what was it about it that made you think it was injured? Does that leg still look injured? I know it's hard to tell when she's not moving much but is there a physical injury on it or is she holding it in a weird way compared to the others? (Was it the 3rd one on the left, I'm just guessing now, got a 7/8 chance of getting it right :))
I think it was in the right side when she was walking it wasn't bending although now all legs are bent.she looks better than she was still a long way to go.
 

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Indeed she definitely looks ok now. It's fine for her not to move around much now. She's been through a stressful moult, an enclosure change and possibly either an injury or chemical exposure ( or maybe neither of those things!). It'll take time to recover but she'll be back to normal in time.

I'm really happy to see her looking so good, she is definitely a stunner and you've done a great job making sure she didn't get dehydrated for all those days that she wasn't moving .
 

Sonicookie

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Looking better! Looks like she's strong enough to support herself, even without using those two front legs. I'm glad!

She's very pretty too, I love that fresh new hair on her abdomen. Looks like she combs it daily.
 

James1975

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Indeed she definitely looks ok now. It's fine for her not to move around much now. She's been through a stressful moult, an enclosure change and possibly either an injury or chemical exposure ( or maybe neither of those things!). It'll take time to recover but she'll be back to normal in time.

I'm really happy to see her looking so good, she is definitely a stunner and you've done a great job making sure she didn't get dehydrated for all those days that she wasn't moving .
Good job I didn't put her In the fridge lol.on a serious note thanks to u i
Indeed she definitely looks ok now. It's fine for her not to move around much now. She's been through a stressful moult, an enclosure change and possibly either an injury or chemical exposure ( or maybe neither of those things!). It'll take time to recover but she'll be back to normal in time.

I'm really happy to see her looking so good, she is definitely a stunner and you've done a great job making sure she didn't get dehydrated for all those days that she wasn't moving .
It's a good job I didn't put her in the fridge lol.on a serious note thank you for everything I will keep u updated on her road to recovery.and your right she is a beautiful t.
 

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Good job I didn't put her In the fridge lol.on a serious note thanks to u i

It's a good job I didn't put her in the fridge lol.on a serious note thank you for everything I will keep u updated on her road to recovery.and your right she is a beautiful t.

I shudder to think! I did keep stating that the time hadn't come for anything drastic like that, and to give it a few more days. Mind you, from your descriptions of her condition I was half expecting her to pass naturally before the week was out. When you sent these latest pictures, you could have knocked me down with a feather. I was expecting to see a tarantula in partial or full death curl, not one that looked in such good shape. I've been in work until late and believe me, it was a pleasant surprise.
The news couldn't be better, I'm so glad for you :D
 

Sonicookie

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Same, it had seemed more likely that she wouldn't make it. I guess she just had some important fake moulting to do. Method acting maybe.
 
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