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The one you posted first the Sp. Ecuador, does it have orange on the abdomen ? Doesn't matter in what shape,it should have orange on the side and look like a black stripe forming through the middle. Just goes to show,pics can mislead like when I looked at it. Also,what threw me off was Avicularia Sp. Ecuador since the common name used for Avicularia Purpurea is Ecuadorian pink toe which that one isn't.
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