The threat to the First Amendment.

[ilovebrachys]

Well this has taken a turn. Everytime someone mentions violence in the black community it always reminds me of Ben Shapiros statement when asked about it and he said it's everything to do with the culture

I miss the times when someone didn't get a job or they failed at something because they ****ed up. Now everyone blames oppression. Are there honestly still black people dealing with oppression from slavery in the US? Give me a break lol. Btw I can say this because I'm a white privileged male

I read this news story and it made me think of this thread...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48118278 ....its all a culture thing us privileged white folk wouldn't understand

 

[Rs50matt]

I read this news story and it made me think of this thread...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48118278 ....its all a culture thing us privileged white folk wouldn't understand

Because everyday I'm swamped by news stories of white men and women openly talking about sexual abuse when they were children. What a privilege we have that we can talk so freely about subjects like this. I'd love to know what order oppression is categorised. Does black trump female? Is a trans male more oppressed than a trans female? Who really knows. :l

 

[MassExodus]

Look how the leftist vultures swoop down on dead meat.

 

[MassExodus]

Blazor won the Russian Roulette lol many sads...

Ahh, I misunderstood. I'll send a PM.

 

[Hemolymph]

I love this thread!!!!

 

[MassExodus]

This is Tim Pool, him and Joe Rogan are the only two lefties I have any respect for.

 

[MassExodus]

 

[MassExodus]

Funny af

 

[Casey K.]

I support Trump and I'm a gun-totin' republican. I love me some RED states. Doesn't make me racist. I bleed red just as anyone else. Your exterior color has nothing to do with your character as a human being. I get sick of the ****ing race card .....I'm tired of all the BS about "oh, I was raised in the ghetto so please excuse me for my violent tendencies" blah blah blah BULL****. I was raised between the country and in poor suburban areas where drugs were an all you can eat buffet! You name it, it's yours. I've never done a ****ing drug outside of smoking a little weed when I was 17 and the **** was in my face EVERY DAY. I'm talking hard core drugs. As individuals, we have to make our OWN choices in life.....oh, and btw, my ancestors were slaves (yes, white slaves) but NO, you DON'T OWE ME **** FOR IT BECAUSE I WAS NEVER A ****ING SLAVE. You never OPPRESSED ME as an individual. This **** gets me so damn fired up. Sorry for the rant, folks....had to get it off my chest.

 

[Casey K.]

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My new pistol, arriving tomorrow. Just a little eyecandy to spruce up the thread Already have a holosun optic, angled foregrip, and three 33rd funsticks for it. AR-9, 9mm.

Nice!!!!!

 

[Casey K.]

Quite alright Casey, that's what this thread is for. Its funny that liberals never want to debate these issues. It's almost as if..as if they know that their degenarate ideology is wrong..like say, murdering babies. Or "open borders"..yeah, **** our national sovereignty, lets all start leaving our houses unlocked, and the doors wide open at night, too. Anyone is welcome, cause we're dumb af. The Dems continue the race baiting, and race pandering. Look, an election is coming up, lets talk about..REPERATIONS! And the majority of blacks say, "Free money!? Yay, lets vote Democrat!" Because being hoodwinked is what they like. See, now you're getting me started again Casey

Oh hell....you had to bring that **** up (murdering babies)....cant believe i left that one out. I agree with women. Our bodies, our choice.....until our bodies become a vessel for another soul. I hate abortion. I do not support it. Never will. Every excuse or reason you can give me to have one will be countered (minus the medically significant one where both mother and child have a high probability of dying from prolonging the pregnancy (ex: eptopic pregnancy) in which case i understand)....you were raped? I'm sorry to hear that....where was your contraception? I dont mean the kind that the man pulls out and covers his **** with. I mean why werent you as a woman that did not want to get pregnant for ANY REASON not have contraception of your own? Im not saying its ok to be raped by anyone. **** happens. Its a cruel world. Dont add to the cruelty by taking a life that did nothing to you. Not sexually active when it happened? I'm sorry. There are many wonderful people in this world that would love to give your child a nice life. Women will hate me for saying it but i dont care. Their opinions are their own just as mine. Eradicating the child does not delete what has happened. It cannot be undone. Even if the child wasn't planned by anyone....it doesn't mean that child wasn't "meant to be". I believe in a higher power (yes, I am a Christian) but even if i WASN'T i still wouldn't agree with aborting an innocent helpless life....and if you ask me if i were in any of those situations, you damn right i'd finish my pregnancy out to the fullest. I may not keep the child but it would have a happy life elsewhere.

 

[Tortoise Tom]

I support any and every political candidate that promotes and follows the Constitution and upholds my rights and freedoms. Government should be kept small, minimal, and very little influence on our day to day lives. Taxation should be minimized, as should government spending. The Constitution, Bill of Rights and Preamble should be followed to the letter. We know why these things were written and we know exactly what the founders meant and why they did it the way they did it.

I denounce and oppose any politician that opposes the law of the land, wishes to trample my freedom, steal money from my pocket, and increase the power of government over the lives of Americans.

We fought two world wars to stop communism/socialism. Nearly a third of the world's population died fighting the second one. I cannot understand how a politician gets on the TV, says "I'm a socialist", and half of America wants to vote for them. WHAT???

Further, I can't understand how a different politician gets on the TV and tells Americans that: America comes first, we need to close our borders and stop the illegal invasion of our country, I want to bring jobs back to America and promote American business, tax you less, and limit the power of government, and half the country thinks the guy is a fascists, racist, Mexican hating, woman hating, gay hating, misogynist, lying, evil, ****.

Half of us have lost our minds. Seriously. Its always been said that no foreign power could ever defeat America. If we are ever defeated, it will be from within. We are watching it happen, I think.

 

[Tortoise Tom]

Oh hell....you had to bring that **** up (murdering babies)....cant believe i left that one out. I agree with women. Our bodies, our choice.....until our bodies become a vessel for another soul. I hate abortion. I do not support it. Never will. Every excuse or reason you can give me to have one will be countered (minus the medically significant one where both mother and child have a high probability of dying from prolonging the pregnancy (ex: eptopic pregnancy) in which case i understand)....you were raped? I'm sorry to hear that....where was your contraception? I dont mean the kind that the man pulls out and covers his **** with. I mean why werent you as a woman that did not want to get pregnant for ANY REASON not have contraception of your own? Im not saying its ok to be raped by anyone. **** happens. Its a cruel world. Dont add to the cruelty by taking a life that did nothing to you. Not sexually active when it happened? I'm sorry. There are many wonderful people in this world that would love to give your child a nice life. Women will hate me for saying it but i dont care. Their opinions are their own just as mine. Eradicating the child does not delete what has happened. It cannot be undone. Even if the child wasn't planned by anyone....it doesn't mean that child wasn't "meant to be". I believe in a higher power (yes, I am a Christian) but even if i WASN'T i still wouldn't agree with aborting an innocent helpless life....and if you ask me if i were in any of those situations, you damn right i'd finish my pregnancy out to the fullest. I may not keep the child but it would have a happy life elsewhere.

Touchy subject. Here is a point of view from someone on your side, politically speaking. I'm pro freedom. I'm anti-government-telling-people-what-to-do. I don't apply this where its convenient for me and not elsewhere. I want my money, guns, land, and freedom left alone. Some people see the abortion issue differently than you or I, and they want the freedom to do as they please. Is it repulsive, despicable and disgusting? Yes, but they say the same thing about us having baby-killing guns. We know they are ignorant about guns, so we dismiss their idiocy. Perhaps rather than call them ignorant, I should say that they see the gun issue differently than you and I and they believe human lives are at stake, and that is more important than your freedom or my freedom. You see the abortion issue differently than they do, yet you wish to impose your will upon them because you believe human lives are at stake. In my view this makes us no better than them. I say: You don't like guns? Then don't have any, but leave me the hell alone. And: You think its a lifeless clump of cells? I don't have to agree, but that person should still have the freedom to do what they want. Or: Don't like guns? Then don't buy one. Think abortion is wrong? Then don't have one.

I leave them alone, regardless of my opinion about when its a baby and when its not, because I want them to leave me alone when it comes to choosing what guns I want to own, train with, and use for any legal purpose I see fit.

Gun control is a losing platform for every Dem that tries to stand on it. Ask HRC. Likewise, abortion is a losing platform for any R or RINO that tries to stand on it. I think our side has to let this one go. I think we need to do what we think is right, and let others choose what is right for themselves, in the same way we want them to stop trying to regulate our rights into oblivion because of their misguided ignorance. We seem to have reached a point in America where everybody wants to control everybody else. I don't want to control anybody, and I don't want anybody trying to control me. I'd like to return to freedom and minding my own business.

 

[Arachnoclown]

 

[MassExodus]

By the way, congrats to our Aussie members on your recent election. Now, if we can get rid of Trudeau and May the world will look much brighter to me.

 

[Tortoise Tom]

I have to disagree with you on abortion. You dont get to take a childs life for the sake of convenience. If you believe in our Constitution, then you must believe that you cannot deprive someone of life without due process of law. Yes, in extreme cases where the mother's life is threatened, abortion may be the only choice..but that's somewhat rare these days. You can't compare our right to bear arms with someone who chooses to take a life because its convenient. Or maybe they just don't like children, w/e. Personally, I don't like the ideology of islam. Unfortunately, I can't just kill them all. Because thats illegal. Why is killing babies somehow normal, now? Why? On what plane of existence did it suddenly become ok to murder babies, but I can't murder muslims in their 2000th trimester? Is this the ****ing twilight zone? We're talking about the only truly innocent form of human life. Each time a baby is murdered, a world is destroyed. A whole world. There is no rational defence for slaughtering babies, just because their mothers are stupid whores. Ladies, you don't want babies? Use birth control, IED's, IUD's w/e. DON'T GET PREGNANT AND THERE WON'T BE AN ISSUE. There's a special place in hell reserved for mothers that kill their own children. Enjoy!

You are missing my point. Your argument is a strong one and I don't disagree, but this is how you see this issue. Other people see it differently and make a different case. Some people believe use birth control is also a form of abortion and defying God's will. IUDs wipe out developing cells after conception. How is that not also abortion, but you advocate for it? Without that IUD, or condom, or pill, those cells would have, or could have become a living person. You've just chosen an earlier stage to conveniently destroy that life. You say its okay if we do it early enough. Other people think anytime in the first week is okay. Others think first trimester is hunky dory. Everyone draws this line somewhere different.

My point is this: No one should be trying to control the lives of others through the use of force. Government and laws = use of force. If you don't follow what they write down on paper, men with guns come to either arrest or shoot you. Force. Your argument, valid or not, agreeable or not, is the same as their argument that children are dying, so you and I need to give up rights to our chosen means of self defense. I find perverse amusement in the fact that both sides accuse the other of not caring about the lives of children and murdering babies. These arguments are based on opinions. Personal viewpoints. You and I are in agreement about 2A. We are in agreement about a religious ideology that says they must convert or kill us and it is fine to lie, deceive and cheat to accomplish either goal. We are in agreement about what abortion is and isn't, I think. Where I think we disagree, is in what to do about it.

With our guns, there is a clear and well explained standard. We are born with these rights and our BoR and Constitution merely enumerate and protect those rights. We individual citizens are supposed to be as well armed as the individual soldier. That is what the framers said, that is what the framers intended, and that is what they wrote down and ratified. Their positions are clearly defined and explained in numerous historical references, including the Federalist Papers. If you look at what was going down at the time, it is obvious why they would feel that way. Human nature has not changed with the times. Government still wishes to wrest power away from the individual, and our system of government is supposed to prevent that. It is currently failing.

There isn't any such talk from the founders about abortion rights. Some say it fails under the general heading of personal freedom. Some say that all human life at all stages fall under these protections. The issue is, and always will be, when is it a human life, and what is okay to do or not do, prior to that point. You are okay with IUDs. Some Catholics are not okay with any form of BC. Some of these whackos are saying its fine to kill the baby after a successful birth. I know a man who upon seeing some of these insolent little criminal teenagers quips that abortion should be legal up until age 18. In some of these cases, I don't disagree with him, so I suppose I'm a bit of a whacko too. The issue is that each of us will see this differently and draw a line in a different place. The issue is: What do we do about all these differences of opinion about this issue? I see two choices. 1. We all force everyone else to live by how we see it. 2. We all live our own lives, and let others live their own lives how they see fit. I don't think a consensus will ever be reached on this issue. A majority will be able to meet somewhere in the middle, but the extremes on both sides will always hold their positions.

 

[Arachnoclown]

My spider aborted her sack....dam *****!!!!

 

[menavodi]

My spider aborted her sack....dam *****!!!!

Yeah, what’s wrong with her!

 

[Tortoise Tom]

My spider aborted her sack....dam *****!!!!

What gives her the right...

 

[Tnoob]

Oh hell....you had to bring that **** up (murdering babies)....cant believe i left that one out. I agree with women. Our bodies, our choice.....until our bodies become a vessel for another soul. I hate abortion. I do not support it. Never will. Every excuse or reason you can give me to have one will be countered (minus the medically significant one where both mother and child have a high probability of dying from prolonging the pregnancy (ex: eptopic pregnancy) in which case i understand)....you were raped? I'm sorry to hear that....where was your contraception? I dont mean the kind that the man pulls out and covers his **** with. I mean why werent you as a woman that did not want to get pregnant for ANY REASON not have contraception of your own? Im not saying its ok to be raped by anyone. **** happens. Its a cruel world. Dont add to the cruelty by taking a life that did nothing to you. Not sexually active when it happened? I'm sorry. There are many wonderful people in this world that would love to give your child a nice life. Women will hate me for saying it but i dont care. Their opinions are their own just as mine. Eradicating the child does not delete what has happened. It cannot be undone. Even if the child wasn't planned by anyone....it doesn't mean that child wasn't "meant to be". I believe in a higher power (yes, I am a Christian) but even if i WASN'T i still wouldn't agree with aborting an innocent helpless life....and if you ask me if i were in any of those situations, you damn right i'd finish my pregnancy out to the fullest. I may not keep the child but it would have a happy life elsewhere.

I would just like to argue here that's your body, and the babies has its own sovereignty. Life is created factually at conception, and is a living organism. Just because she doesn't want it doesn't mean the father should lose out on a child just because both parties may have made poor life choices or some ****. Also, according to a few national databases on abortion statistics there has been over 1,535,829, 540 deaths from abortion since 1980. A full 7 years since roe vs wade, and wahmen are a bigger threat than Mau, Stalin, and Hitler combined, they are a larger threat to humanity than any communist regime, or fascist, for that matter. Also, our country is well below replacement levels for breeding. At this rate we have a serious issue with getting people to breed. P.S. in before my mass oga knee kicks in.