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The threat to the First Amendment.

Tnoob

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Three things. First off, I'm not sure why I don't have this dude on my sub list. I need to get on that. Secondly, people won't actually do a ****ing thing until the pain of inaction out ways the pain of action. You might get about 10% of the population that would even care to do a damn thing about it anyway if you're even lucky. The rest of these sheep would just be a casualty of indirect fire. Lastly, they can have my first when they take my second, and I'll just bleed the fifth. 3%
 

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Should guns not be controlled if they are killing people? Say "You have the inalienable right to commit mass murder" was amended to the constitution. Would we not fix that?
Just my two cents
Do you also blame cars when a drunk kills a family of four? The 2nd amendment doesn't anyone the right to commit mass murder, just like the first doesn't give anyone the right to incite violence. The whole point of the constitution is to provide the willing individual the opportunity to maintain their sovereignty against a tyrant and bandits. You shouldn't blame guns because some people don't understand that your rights are my responsibility. So we should all take responsibility for these negligent people and force them to pay the price for their mistakes. It's already hard enough to get a gun legally let alone have the peace of mind to know when it's appropriate to use said tool. Which is all it is. A tool of self defense.
 

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Should guns not be controlled if they are killing people? Say "You have the inalienable right to commit mass murder" was amended to the constitution. Would we not fix that?
Just my two cents
Killing people is illegal. People who disregard laws written on a piece of paper against murdering innocent people are also going to ignore laws against keeping or using certain scary looking guns. These laws only disarm the law abiding. The good guys. The guys who if they were allowed to have a gun with them, would STOP the bad guys from committing their heinous acts, as happens here 2.5-3million times a year. So why advocate for disarming the good guys? See post number one of this thread.

When someone murders with a hammer, knife, car, poison, etc..., Do you also want to "control" those items? What about sticks and stones? Literally. I can pick up a rock and murder someone if I was a criminal and decided to ignore the law and any sense of right or wrong. Should we ban "assault rocks"? Humans have been murdering each other since the dawn of time. No one will ever stop it. All that we can do, which is what was originally done in this country, is to allow the good guys, who FAR outnumber the bad guys, to have the means to stop the bad guys.

I've been asked, "Why do you carry a gun?" I answered, "Because police officers are too heavy". Or, "Why do you have a gun in your house? Are you planning on shooting someone?" My answer: "Why do you have a fire extinguisher in your house? Are you panning on setting it on fire?" Here's another favorite: When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

So to answer your question: No. Controlling inanimate objects is a pointless waste of time. It does harm to innocents and takes resources away from dealing with the actual problem which is lawless, violent, or insane people at large in our societies. In other words, its not the object doing the murdering, its the human holding it. Focus on the problem, not the tool, if you want to stop murder.
 

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I'm going to leave a small comment here so I can keep up to date with this thread.

I'm sure I'm "not going to understand" as I'm not American but what is the obsession with your amendments? (Btw they've changed many times). And I personally don't agree with guns being so freely available (my opinion) they cause more issues than they prevent.

Can someone educate me?
 

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I wasn't trying to be insulting. I'm quite fond of our cousins, and their history, folklore, etc. But time and again its the Brits talking **** about our second Amendment..I really don't think they grasp the concept..
Obviously not. They have knife ban of all things.
 

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Should guns not be controlled if they are killing people? Say "You have the inalienable right to commit mass murder" was amended to the constitution. Would we not fix that?
Just my two cents
Guns don't kill people, sweety. Crazy ass republicans do when we get pissed off. :D;)

They can have my 2nd ammendment rights when they pry Mr. Smith from my cold dead fingers.
 

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Its not an obsession, really, its a way of life. And truthfully, no, you probably wouldn't understand. Our Constitution and the Amendments to it are what protects our rights as free people. The second Amendment protects our right to keep and bear arms against a tyranical government. Like yours. We don't believe government should have any say at all about certain inherant rights, as free people. The right to defend yourself, your home, your loved ones, is a given in this country. In your country, if you kill a burglar, you'll do time. The right to express yourself, your opinions, that is a basic right, here, while in your country, they tell you what you can and cant say. Americans would never live like that. Thats why we stomped your asses and threw you out of our country. No offense, I'm kind of an Anglophile, myself, and I know many Brits that I like, but I wouldn't live in your country, because your government, and the concept of royalty, disgusts me. We're not huge fans of Big Government. Absolutism, authoritarianism, tyranny, that kind of stuff..we don't like that. We won't live with it. When it rears its head, we cut it off. The documents you asked about protect us from that. Our country was founded on the principles contained in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Its definitely not an "obsession" as you so dismissively put it. Its what makes America the greatest nation on this planet. Lately, traitorous socialist commie fascist ****s have been pushing their stupidity on decent Americans, so we're a bit touchy right now. Does that explain it sufficiently? There's a HUGE divide among us, some people say we're headed for civil war. I don't really welcome that, I don't think we're there, yet, but I'm ready, and I know which side I'll be on. Then there's the "culture war" which is basically a bunch of self hating, weak minded whites, and browns that immigrated to this country( which was created and made great by white christians), who now use their victim culture as a mask for racism against the people who welcomed them here. Apparently its perfectly acceptable to target white males and Christians, but if you're brown, jewish, muslim, etc., you're protected from any criticism. But I digress, I'm getting mad now..so I'll leave you with this: Islam, feminism, socialism, illegal immigration, (in fact, all immigration), is cancer. We need chemotherapy. And before you say "nation of imigrants", white Christians are not immigrants, we're settlers. We came to this land, conquered the natives, and built the greatest country in the world. We need more nationalism in America. We need a wall, and we need more Americans to turn off netflix and PAY ATTENTION MORE THAN ONCE EVERY FOUR YEARS. We need to stomp out white guilt. It's weak, self hating, corrupt whites that put us in this position. I see it in your country too. London has fallen to Islam. Islam is your enemy..how do you like your no-go zones?


I think I'm in love....... :D:beer:
 

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P.S. god save the queen.
Sorry, but the Royal Family are hated and despised in the UK. They are seen as Parasites by a vast majority of our own people (I am one of the many).
They serve no purpose what so ever anymore to the UK apart from draining it`s money and resources to keep them in their own lavish lifestyle at the Tax Payers expense.
Treason has been committed in the UK by our very own Prime minister and dear old Liz (queen) has done sweet FA about it. Useless Woman attached to a Parasitic Family.
Our Queen of England refers to the people of the UK as Cretins, scum and Peasants (this has been well documented) , yet there have been many cover ups made for the Royal Family over the years , serious crimes have been committed by them and they have got away with it every time.

So sorry but "god save the queen" No thanks . The UK monarchy should be Abolished . I loath and despise everything they stand for and represent and I would personally like to see them all Hang..
 

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