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DreadedNeith

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I remember horny toads being EVERYWHERE as a kid. Really cool little lizards. Its sad that they're dying out. Ive only seen one in the past 20 yrs..
Im living in ny state now so i never see them but i did used to see quite a bit of them at a place called Sand Mountain in Nevada. I used to ride out there. There were lots of those, rattlesnakes, and the occasional T. Actually, I remember seeing a sidewinder out there. I came very close to running it over on my dirt bike. I believe it was a Crotalus cerastes. Very cool snake.
 
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LC72uk

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Rofl, imo both of you are fkn crazy. I like it. I've been told I'm crazy on a motorcycle, and I'm going to die on one. I laugh at people and tell them I ride to live, not to die. When you ride, everything is sharp, the smells, sights, everything. Is that why you mess with hot snakes? To live in the world, rather than just live? I'm curious. Is it acceptance of life, or adrenaline, or what? My choices of pets is reliant on other folks and pets in my household, I don't have the freedom of choice tbh..I love my family and pets, and a few friends/girlfriends I know. I won't put them out, or endanger them knowingly. Do you guys live alone? Do you keep your hot snakes isolated from family? I'm asking because I don't fear for myself as much as I fear for the people I love. And because I'm being drawn to reptiles, and the more y'all talk about hot snakes, the more I'm becoming interested.
I don`t have that Family problem, lived on my own for the last 23 years, ex Mrs went years ago. It`s funny out of all the Venomous snakes I have dealt with and kept over the years, none of them have been as toxic as my Ex - Mrs, her Venom could kill a Inland Taipan (Oxyuranus microlepidotus) This is considered to be the most toxic Snake on the planet .
My Daughter comes round every now and then but she`s used to it, grown up with it. She wants me to get a Gaboon Viper.
I keep 3 of the hot Snakes in my lounge and the other 3 hots in my bedroom.

Should you ever decide to go into hot herps Mass, my advice would be keep some really nasty non venomous/aggressive species first, this will help when it comes to the snake striking at you , can you avoid the bite ?, think of it as a Venomous species. You only get one chance with a hot herp .
Should you get past that stage you should then move onto getting some Rear fanged venomous species like a Mangrove Snake (Boiga dendrophilia), most of these have a low toxicity venom and their delivery system is poor (Boomslang (Dispholidus typus) being the exception, nasty venom you bleed out ) most rear fanged snakes are very aggressive .

I have 35 years experience in keeping Reptiles, I didn`t got hot till 2002 that`s when I started training and it was 3 years(2005) till I got my very first Venomous snake which was a Monocled Cobra (Naja kaouthia) and the 2nd being a WDB.:)
One thing is if you are hesitant kind of person , steer clear Mass. You need to be 100% on the ball my friend when it comes to hots .
 
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LC72uk

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Im living in ny state now so i never see them but i did used to see quite a bit of them at a place called Sand Mountain in Nevada. I used to ride out there. There were lots of those, rattlesnakes, and the occasional T. Actually, I remember seeing a sidewinder out there. I came very close to running it over on my dirt bike. I believe it was a Crotalus cerastes. Very cool snake.
Crotalus cerastes is one on my list to get.
 

LC72uk

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Interesting. Your info on the Catalina rattlesnake differs with what I've been told by all the herpers in this area who handle them and other species. One guy says if you get bit by a Catalina rattler, it won't kill you, but you'll be a veggie the rest of your life. Our local helleri would not be fun to be bitten by, but it won't turn you into a vegetable. Having never been bitten by either, I really can't argue one way or the other.

The main species I encounter and handle are Southern Pacifics. I've literally been chased by them. I figured they were just moving in one direction or another and as I kept zig zagging to get off line, I quickly realized that damn thing was following and trying to get me. I've had other ones literally launch their entire bodies into the air while striking at me. I would never have believed it had I not seen it. So much for that "safe" striking distance. I've not handled prairies, but I'm told they are much more aggressive than helleri. Helleri will also usually tame down over time and with handling. Several friends do dog training clinics for snake avoidance, and they say that after a while the helleri tame down and stop striking, while the prairies never calm down.
That`s what i like about Viridis, they are one snake that will keep your wits about you, them and Crotalus scutulatus, where as I have found that WDB`s will calm down in captivity and that to me becomes a more dangerous snake. You can never get complacent .
Also looking into Sistrurus miliarius and Sistrurus miliarius barbouri, these are super little snakes and very aggressive:D
 

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I don`t have that Family problem, lived on my own for the last 23 years, ex Mrs went years ago. It`s funny out of all the Venomous snakes I have dealt with and kept over the years, none of them have been as toxic as my Ex - Mrs, her Venom could kill a Inland Taipan (Oxyuranus microlepidotus) This is considered to be the most toxic Snake on the planet .
My Daughter comes round every now and then but she`s used to it, grown up with it. She wants me to get a Gaboon Viper.
I keep 3 of the hot Snakes in my lounge and the other 3 hots in my bedroom.

Should you ever decide to go into hot herps Mass, my advice would be keep some really nasty non venomous/aggressive species first, this will help when it comes to the snake striking at you , can you avoid the bite ?, think of it as a Venomous species. You only get one chance with a hot herp .
Should you get past that stage you should then move onto getting some Rear fanged venomous species like a Mangrove Snake (Boiga dendrophilia), most of these have a low toxicity venom and their delivery system is poor (Boomslang (Dispholidus typus) being the exception, nasty venom you bleed out ) most rear fanged snakes are very aggressive .

I have 35 years experience in keeping Reptiles, I didn`t got hot till 2002 that`s when I started training and it was 3 years(2005) till I got my very first Venomous snake which was a Monocled Cobra (Naja kaouthia) and the 2nd being a WDB.:)
One thing is if you are hesitant kind of person , steer clear Mass. You need to be 100% on the ball my friend when it comes to hots .
Naa, I'll just admire them from afar:) Nobody is fast enough to dodge a rattler. I'll stick to mini comodo dragons that act like dogs :D
 

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If I was to go with a venomous snake, & money was no object, I'd do a false water cobra. It's rear fanged and sort of like a water loving hognose on steroids with no major feeding problems according to what I've researched into it. I like the fact that they are supposed to be intelligent as well.

My black rat snake wasn't much in the IQ department, but still would react to 3 taps on the side of the enclosure after a feeder was added. That reinforcement prevented it from mistaking my hand for a mouse mostly. It took several months for it to learn that however.

Still, he would come right out for getting a bath after every cage cleaning and sadly enough passed away from mouth rot, which I didn't know was treatable at the time because I was just a kid. Now the veterinary medicine has progressed much farther then it was in the late 20th century.

So has the cages. I was using an aquarium with a carefully fitted piece of wood on the top of it that sat in the notched rails on top, secured with half a cinder block. You have no idea how much nicer the Terra Blue or even the ZooMed enclosures are!!
 

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