T vagans , male or female ?

[Pog mo thoin]

Can you guys help me sex this t vagans ,I'm thinking it's male

 

[ilovebrachys]

Can you guys help me sex this t vagans ,I'm thinking it's male

Looks male to me

 

[Pog mo thoin]

Thanks for your help, I'm hoping he calms down after this molt , he was very calm and placid till his last molt, then he just changed became very skittish and bolty .

 

[Casey K.]

I think I see spermatheca.....but I've been wrong when it comes to "male" sex organs looking similar to them....let the molt completely dry. Then take a pic of it. I'm thinking thats looking more like male sex organs....

 

[ilovebrachys]

I think I see spermatheca.....but I've been wrong when it comes to "male" sex organs looking similar to them....let the molt completely dry. Then take a pic of it. I'm thinking thats looking more like male sex organs....

Good advice I can't zoom in on the pic so from what I could see it looked male will be better for the OP if I'm wrong

 

[WolfSpider]

I agree with Casey, but I can't be sure. The presumed girl parts are out of focus.

 

[Pog mo thoin]

Does this pic help ?

 

[plessey]

Male accessory organs circled in red. These are very prominent in vagans and often get mistaken for spermathecae by anyone not also looking for a uterus externus and bursa copulatrix. T. vagans also have fused spermathecae so there would not be 2 seperate structures as above.

T. vagans spermathecae

 

[Casey K.]

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Male accessory organs circled in red. These are very prominent in vagans and often get mistaken for spermathecae by anyone not also looking for a uterus externus and bursa copulatrix. T. vagans also have fused spermathecae so there would not be 2 seperate structures as above.

T. vagans spermathecae

I was thinking there was a flap between the two thingies.....lol.

 

[Pog mo thoin]

So he's definitely a male ?

 

[Casey K.]

So he's definitely a male ?

I'm thinking so. I've gotta start paying closer attention to these things....these males have some big....ahem.

Looks very similar to spermatheca!!

 

[WolfSpider]

@plessey :. Obviously you are T-wise. Question:. How are you able to draw on photos--in color, nonetheless??? That is a cool trick. Care to share?

 

[Casey K.]

@plessey :. Obviously you are T-wise. Question:. How are you able to draw on photos--in color, nonetheless??? That is a cool trick. Care to share?

You just edit your photo. Click it in your gallery. This opens the photo up. At the bottom you will see different icons. Mine is a pencil icon. I click on it and it gives me more options to draw, paint, expand, etc. the photo. Different phones may have different icons on them. Mine is the galaxy S10+. Not sure what phone you have but it may be a bit different than mine as far as editing options go.

 

[plessey]

I was thinking there was a flap between the two thingies.....lol.

The uterus externus would lay on top of the 2 structures rather than inbetween them if it was female. Also if you look below the gonoslit line there would be a semi circular indentation (looks like a smiley mouth) which would be the bursa copulatrix. However, since the spider is male the skin below the gonoslit is flat.

So he's definitely a male ?

Yes.

@plessey :. Obviously you are T-wise. Question:. How are you able to draw on photos--in color, nonetheless??? That is a cool trick. Care to share?

I just use good old Microsoft Paint on my laptop to draw on photos.