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Yep... exactly! It is supposed to be the worst pain of any bite in the world. I'll take their word for it, thank you very much.You KNOW that has to be painful, they named it after a bullet...
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"Allergic reactions can be life threatening"...People are still spouting about allergic reactions, even though an allergic reaction to tarantula venom has never been documented..EVER..
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People fear what they don't understand...it's one of the biggest downfalls of humanity for real. They don't listen to reason or fact either. Just what they know to be "true"
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Yeah, it's a mixture of stupidity and not being able to control their fear, or think through it. I can't really preach though, I have a great fear of sharks and crocs. If I was holding a baby, and a shark swam at me, I would throw the baby at the shark..and then leave a cloud of feces in the water to throw off any pursuit...
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Note to self. Don't ask mass to baby sit my kids if near the ocean.... haha.
So is there an idea as to which species of T reported to have the worst bite of them all? After watching those videos and seeing the pain chart I'm curious.
So is there an idea as to which species of T reported to have the worst bite of them all? After watching those videos and seeing the pain chart I'm curious.
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It would depend on which category of worst - worst venom or worst mechanical damage (fang length, multiple bites)?
I remember a guy years ago, when I was on the forums first, who had his tendon/nerve severed and bone nicked in his finger from a bite. That is pretty bad. I can't remember who it was who did that damage to him, but it was someone with a longer set of fangs than the average.
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I know not to bring my kids around any beach you are at! [emoji1]
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just because there's not been a population to be bitten and studied like with other bites and stings. My guess is there is people out there that are allergic, they just haven't gotten bit yet
Or maybe the allergic reaction is there already and why the OW venom is so much more potent.
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I think that documentation on tarantulas is greatly lacking. Personally, I do not believe that nobody has ever died from bites. I am specifically thinking of the very potent African arboreals out there - if they can kill dogs, then they would have no problem killing a young child. I personally don't believe that they have never killed anyone in all of history... they probably have and we just haven't heard about it.
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Peptides. I'm going to find a few links for you guys. Australian species have a 100% mortality rate for large breed dogs, cats, things like that. The reaction to T venom is systemic, not allergic. Grammastola rosea venom kills mice faster than an H mac's venom..you can't compare another animals reaction to venom to a humans reaction. Australians report mild to moderate pain in the same study where they mention the dogs..
That and there had never been a DOCUMENTED case. so they it is possible that someone could have been killed by one and no one ever knew. But the fact of the matter is that more people have probably died from choking on one as they were eating it than being bitten by one.
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I agree and I'm not trying to vilify them any more than they already are. But I can't believe that some small child, who might not be that healthy to begin with, in Africa (where medical care is almost non-existent ) hasn't been bitten and died at some point. We would never hear about it.
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Well sure, if someone seriously ill was bitten by a Poeci, it could be enough to kill them..heart palpitations,systemic reactions, muscle cramps, difficulty breathing, not to mention muscle cramps that can last for months...a weak and sick person could be in serious trouble..or dead. Its not impossible.
I must say that I don't care if those dungheads in the first videos get bitten, but I'm worried 'bout two things.
1) What happens to those Ts after they bite - I mean that it's quite a natural reaction to hit / grab & toss something that hurts a lot.. So, you know, this would be extremely dangerous to Ts.
2) All those "WOW! (S)he must be extremely experienced to calm his/her T after provoking! This means that (s)he actually knows how to handle them and what to expect! I see nothing wrong or abusive in these videos, and might actually try to play with my T soon!" -- Even though some of these comments are trolls, they might drive inexperienced (or just plain stupid) people to do stupid things. Again, T and owner both in danger.
1) What happens to those Ts after they bite - I mean that it's quite a natural reaction to hit / grab & toss something that hurts a lot.. So, you know, this would be extremely dangerous to Ts.
2) All those "WOW! (S)he must be extremely experienced to calm his/her T after provoking! This means that (s)he actually knows how to handle them and what to expect! I see nothing wrong or abusive in these videos, and might actually try to play with my T soon!" -- Even though some of these comments are trolls, they might drive inexperienced (or just plain stupid) people to do stupid things. Again, T and owner both in danger.
Mhm, not to mention if the media is having a slow day and cruise the hospital reports it could put a very bad spin on exotic pet keeping, eventually resulting in bans and depriving us of the things we love and enjoy.
Let's be honest here. Media isn't constrained by the truth, not at all, most news is generated to get a reaction. So things get blown way out of proportion. Personally would like to stop the idiots from ruining things for the rest of us. Unfortunately these immature attention seekers have free reign.
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This is going to sound really stupid but I'm curious. Take a shower not using your normal deodorant hair products etc., no chemical anything, not even toothpaste. Then try. I'm wondering if it's something she's picking up that just makes her agitated?
That's an idea. my son and i use the same brand/scent of deoderant, soap, toothpaste, etc. Only difference is hair products. I use Nair cause i'm lazy and the chemical burn isn't as bad as razor burn, he uses Axe or whatever is cool for teenagers to use that month/week. I'll have to borrow his shampoo and see if that makes a difference.
Know it's probably silly but thought it might be worth a shot
