Psalmo's and Phantom egg sacks!

[Tarantula Trooper]

My first phantom egg sack came from my P. Ecclesiasticus. Raised her from a .5 sling and never paired! While feeding her a super worm she came up drumming with all legs. Told my son that's how a female would drum! Before the egg sack I suspected she was female and the sack confirmed as she had drummed one time previously but not during feeding. I pulled this sack because she is one of my most reclusive spiders. The sack was one reason why! Don't know how long she had it exactly but see her out far,far more now. Now, a month or so after pulling the Ecclesiasticus sack my P. Emeraldus dropped a phantom sack. Same as Ecclesiasticus. I raised this spider from a sling. No pairings! I decided this time to leave the sack with her just to see what would happen. Now I know this is a dud sack so I fed and did provide water for her and would overflow a bit. Only 1 cricket through 35 plus days mind you! If I thought it was a viable sack I would have pulled it around the 30 day mark. But it ended the other day at the 39th day and it went as I figured...she consumed it. Kinda what I wanted anyway. But does any other long time Psalmopeous keepers have phantom sack droppers.

 

[AndrewClayton]

I've had Phantom sacs from Irminia and Cambridgei, also C versi and C Fimbriatus.

 

[Tarantula Trooper]

I've had Phantom sacs from Irminia and Cambridgei, also C versi and C Fimbriatus.

Any drumming activity? I thought that was so cool when my Ecclesiasticus drummed! If you mind me asking did you leave the sacs or just pull them straight away? Wish Ts were parthenogenetic! Prices would surely drop here in the USA...maybe..lol,lol! To cross over from another thread!! Lol

 

[AndrewClayton]

Any drumming activity? I thought that was so cool when my Ecclesiasticus drummed! If you mind me asking did you leave the sacs or just pull them straight away? Wish Ts were parthenogenetic! Prices would surely drop here in the USA...maybe..lol,lol! To cross over from another thread!! Lol

Not that I have noticed, it's always been a couple weeks before I notice the sac as there adults there on the back of my shelves as I don't need to get to them as often so it's just at maintenance times they get checked or if there is some curious people in. I always leave the phantom sacs like you done. For the T to try and consume some of that spent energy, a phantom sac is great for a T as long as it hasn't gone bad. Usually around day 36 to 40 is when they will eat it in my experience, kinda glad that T's aren't parthenogenetic, got a phantom sac from an LP years ago looked like it was nearly 500 eggs in that one, went bad pretty quick though.

 

[Tarantula Trooper]

Not that I have noticed, it's always been a couple weeks before I notice the sac as there adults there on the back of my shelves as I don't need to get to them as often so it's just at maintenance times they get checked or if there is some curious people in. I always leave the phantom sacs like you done. For the T to try and consume some of that spent energy, a phantom sac is great for a T as long as it hasn't gone bad. Usually around day 36 to 40 is when they will eat it in my experience, kinda glad that T's aren't parthenogenetic, got a phantom sac from an LP years ago looked like it was nearly 500 eggs in that one, went bad pretty quick though.

Pulled the Ecclesiasticus because I had no idea how long she had been on it and seeing down behind her cork bark was not easy. Had to get her fed back up again. LPs are known to be prolific to say the least.lol. One of few cheap Ts here in the States! 1000 LPs would be, lol, more than a handful! But think if it was a Pokie...ohhh boy. Lol!

 

[regalspottedbeast]

I had my female P. cambridgei lay a phantom sac a few years ago. She was sexually mature at a smaller size than I expected. The sac contained 140 eggs. She cared for the sac for a few days as though it were fertile, but I eventually took it from her because she was on the thin side after creating the sac. I bribed her with a cricket and took it when she was distracted. She then ate all of the leftover webbing from the nest she created. Phantom sacs are a pretty common phenomenon in this genus that sometimes happens when the female reaches maturity. I also once had my AF T. stirmi create an infertile egg sac. That was a sight to behold. She could sense that it wasn't viable and almost immediately ate it.