Advice on dealing with bad urticating hairs?

[Gizalba]

Thanks for all the advice! Haha, indeed it seems the question is more - do I love Theraposae enough for all this?

Wear long gloves like the one in the picture @Oursapoil sent. Wear googles and wear this.

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if it starts to itch, apply Antihistamine cream. Hope this helps.

I might just go the whole way and get a hazmat suit I can imagine if you had to answer the door halfway through this procedure and be like 'Oh, this is nothing to do with Covid, I'm just rehousing my giant tarantula' ahaha.

 

[Oursapoil]

Thanks for all the advice! Haha, indeed it seems the question is more - do I love Theraposae enough for all this?



I might just go the whole way and get a hazmat suit I can imagine if you had to answer the door halfway through this procedure and be like 'Oh, this is nothing to do with Covid, I'm just rehousing my giant tarantula' ahaha.

When I put my arm long rubber gloves I feel kind of kinky, but that's me anyway

 

[octanejunkie]

I wear gloves like that when field dressing game, or doing dishes in a barrel

 

[octanejunkie]

When I put my arm long rubber gloves I feel kind of kinky, but that's me anyway

Now I picture you in stiletto heels and ripped stockings, with those gloves, like a low-rent Frankenfurter

 

[nbm02ss]

My experience: I enjoyed keeping my T. stirmi, but ended up rehousing her because of the UH; I just couldn't tolerate them anymore. As the months went on I started to dread having to do any enclosure maintenance, and that just ruined the fun of keeping a giant T.

 

[nbm02ss]

Oh, and I had other animal's well being to account for. I would've felt absolutely awful if one of my cats got exposed.

 

[Gizalba]

My experience: I enjoyed keeping my T. stirmi, but ended up rehousing her because of the UH; I just couldn't tolerate them anymore. As the months went on I started to dread having to do any enclosure maintenance, and that just ruined the fun of keeping a giant T.

Thanks very much for sharing that info, I'm glad I asked here. You're right about the cat thing too, not worth the risk of them being exposed.

 

[Arachnoclown]

Psalmopoeus as a starter for Poecilotheria. If you really think about it thats just silly. Even myself at one time suggested this following all the unwritten rules of raising tarantulas. I dont feel the same way anymore. First off Psalmopoeus are more defensive and just as fast if not faster then Poecilotheria. Poecilotheria are more skittish and like to run and hide. Never have i seen a threat posture outside of ones hide. Psalmopoeus are ready to rock...inside or outside of its hide.
So which one is more likely to bite you? With both having strong venom is the person bit by a ornata going to wish they got bit by a cambridgei instead??? Trust me, the answer is no.

These are just my thoughts and experiences with breeding these species. My experiences are from many different species of both and not just one or two.
Currently I own (juveniles and Adults)
Poecilotheria species :14
Current speciems: 43
Psalmopoeus species: 6
Current speciems: 22

I'm more on my toes dealing with the all my Psalmopoeus species. Poecilotheria just feel more predictable in my opinion. Just my two cents. Do your homework!!!!

 

[Gizalba]

Psalmopoeus as a starter for Poecilotheria. If you really think about it thats just silly. Even myself at one time suggested this following all the unwritten rules of raising tarantulas. I dont feel the same way anymore. First off Psalmopoeus are more defensive and just as fast if not faster then Poecilotheria. Poecilotheria are more skittish and like to run and hide. Never have i seen a threat posture outside of ones hide. Psalmopoeus are ready to rock...inside or outside of its hide.
So which one is more likely to bite you? With both having strong venom is the person bit by a ornata going to wish they got bit by a cambridgei instead??? Trust me, the answer is no.

These are just my thoughts and experiences with breeding these species. My experiences are from many different species of both and not just one or two.
Currently I own (juveniles and Adults)
Poecilotheria species :14
Current speciems: 43
Psalmopoeus species: 6
Current speciems: 22

I'm more on my toes dealing with the all my Psalmopoeus species. Poecilotheria just feel more predictable in my opinion. Just my two cents. Do your homework!!!!

Thanks for that info and list of what you own. The problem is the more homework I do the more mixed messages I get But I already have Psalmopoeus and always wanted to own that genus regardless of if I ever got a pokie, so I guess I will find out how their natures compare via my own experiment

It is very interesting how people have such varying views on this. One of the places I got that advice from I will attach below. I did also find other people with lots of owning experience backing this up, but of course it is all based on personal experiences rather than controlled experiments. I guess there isn't much research on the actual potency of tarantula venom. I have found a recorded (just after the bite happened) instance of a pokie bite and a separate one of a Stromatopelma Calceatum bite that looked/sounded awful. I struggle to find any of Psalmopoeus I think just because both are probably rare with the correct care of the Ts, not because the latter is any less likely. Of course I can't draw any conclusions from 2 accounts but I do find it hard to believe that I wouldn't rather have a bite from a new world tarantula, when everywhere else I've read state that Pokie bites give the most severe effects, cramping, muscle spasms, intense pain etc. Although I know the Psalmopoeus are from everything I've read more defensive/fast/likely to bite. If the consensus changes over the years to your present view, regarding chucking out the old belief that Psalmopoeus have moderate venom somewhere stronger than other new worlds but not as strong as old worlds, I'd be very happy to be proven wrong as that would be interesting. Obviously I hope not to be proven wrong via getting bitten by a Psalmopoeus myself

 

[Oursapoil]

Thanks for that info and list of what you own. The problem is the more homework I do the more mixed messages I get But I already have Psalmopoeus and always wanted to own that genus regardless of if I ever got a pokie, so I guess I will find out how their natures compare via my own experiment

It is very interesting how people have such varying views on this. One of the places I got that advice from I will attach below. I did also find other people with lots of owning experience backing this up, but of course it is all based on personal experiences rather than controlled experiments. I guess there isn't much research on the actual potency of tarantula venom. I have found a recorded (just after the bite happened) instance of a pokie bite and a separate one of a Stromatopelma Calceatum bite that looked/sounded awful. I struggle to find any of Psalmopoeus I think just because both are probably rare with the correct care of the Ts, not because the latter is any less likely. Of course I can't draw any conclusions from 2 accounts but I do find it hard to believe that I wouldn't rather have a bite from a new world tarantula, when everywhere else I've read state that Pokie bites give the most severe effects, cramping, muscle spasms, intense pain etc. Although I know the Psalmopoeus are from everything I've read more defensive/fast/likely to bite. If the consensus changes over the years to your present view, regarding chucking out the old belief that Psalmopoeus have moderate venom somewhere stronger than other new worlds but not as strong as old worlds, I'd be very happy to be proven wrong as that would be interesting. Obviously I hope not to be proven wrong via getting bitten by a Psalmopoeus myself



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I sincerely believe that although it is never 100% sure, when taking the proper precautions you drastically reduce the chances of getting tagged. The main difficulty is to not become comfortable over time. Chilled Ts who never showed any aggressive or defensive behavior might one day pull a threat posture of flick hairs like a storm and one that usually run away and hide might one day come forward and stand her ground. Dealing here with a passionate and fearless 9 years old, I have to always be on the lookout and will not let him perform any husbandry tasks with some of our Ts until he is a bit older and mature but with the right amount of space, time and respect, I never crossed any T I wouldn't be happy to have or would be scared of. It is not fear that will keep you safe, it is the respect towards the animal and its capabilities. Cheers.

 

[Arachnoclown]

Thanks for that info and list of what you own. The problem is the more homework I do the more mixed messages I get But I already have Psalmopoeus and always wanted to own that genus regardless of if I ever got a pokie, so I guess I will find out how their natures compare via my own experiment

It is very interesting how people have such varying views on this. One of the places I got that advice from I will attach below. I did also find other people with lots of owning experience backing this up, but of course it is all based on personal experiences rather than controlled experiments. I guess there isn't much research on the actual potency of tarantula venom. I have found a recorded (just after the bite happened) instance of a pokie bite and a separate one of a Stromatopelma Calceatum bite that looked/sounded awful. I struggle to find any of Psalmopoeus I think just because both are probably rare with the correct care of the Ts, not because the latter is any less likely. Of course I can't draw any conclusions from 2 accounts but I do find it hard to believe that I wouldn't rather have a bite from a new world tarantula, when everywhere else I've read state that Pokie bites give the most severe effects, cramping, muscle spasms, intense pain etc. Although I know the Psalmopoeus are from everything I've read more defensive/fast/likely to bite. If the consensus changes over the years to your present view, regarding chucking out the old belief that Psalmopoeus have moderate venom somewhere stronger than other new worlds but not as strong as old worlds, I'd be very happy to be proven wrong as that would be interesting. Obviously I hope not to be proven wrong via getting bitten by a Psalmopoeus myself



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^^^^That guys info is old and out dated...good for basic knowledge only.
Not sure where you are doing your research but quickly I found lots of Psalmopoeus bite reports in other forums and media pages. Its the hottest venom of all new world spiders...maybe even a few old worlds as well?

 

[Gizalba]

^^^^That guys info is old and out dated...good for basic knowledge only.
Not sure where you are doing your research but quickly I found lots of Psalmopoeus bite reports in other forums and media pages. Its the hottest venom of all new world spiders...maybe even a few old worlds as well?

Thanks, I will look more into that.

It is not fear that will keep you safe, it is the respect towards the animal and its capabilities. Cheers.

I like that quote a lot, very good to remember.

 

[Arachnoclown]

Maybe for science purposes I should get tagged by a Psalmopoeus so someone can actually compare the two bites....not!

 

[octanejunkie]

Go for the Gigas!