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3 Legs Stuck in molt post ultimate molt MM

Leepbby

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Good afternoon,

I am not sure that there is any help for my mature male A. chalcodes. I was not expecting him to get to this point but here we are. He decided to go into molt position about 12am this night and I just assumed he would not make it out but at the off chance I kept an eye on him. For quite a while he just lay there but at about 5am this morning he started to actively molt. I was surprised that he had as much strength that he was doing very well but I knew his pedipalps were definitely a reason for concern. Pushing foward he never got his pedipalps out so it looks as though he's popped them off. What the issue seems to be is that where he decided to molt did not give him a lot of room for the VERY long length of his new legs. He managed to get out from what I can tell looks like 5 of them leaving 3 still being a problem. I am not sure what to do at this point. I've tried moistening the legs with a paintbrush. Adding humidity to the enclosure and lightly wetting him with water. Its now 3:20pm and I'm not sure if I should be doing anything more to help him he is still very active and moving around so he doesn't seem as though he is going to pass away but I hate to see him like this at this point in this stage of his life. Please any suggestions would be very helpful. Heres are some pics to help understand. The circled one is a close up of 1 of the legs half out but looks folded over.
 

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MBullock

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He wont survive this IMO.

You would actually likely need to cut the old molt away carefully which you cant do til he hardens, and even then if you lack a steady hand and feather-touch, it wont end well.

I personally feel you should euthanize him.. i dont see him surviving this.

Moisture wont help as ecdysis is an enzymatic process. If it survives it will drop the legs on its own, provided it's not too senile.

Even with room he'd've still been likely trapped. Successful postultimate molts are rarer than a friendly OBT
 

Leepbby

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He wont survive this IMO.

You would actually likely need to cut the old molt away carefully which you cant do til he hardens, and even then if you lack a steady hand and feather-touch, it wont end well.

I personally feel you should euthanize him.. i dont see him surviving this.

Moisture wont help as ecdysis is an enzymatic process. If it survives it will drop the legs on its own, provided it's not too senile.

Even with room he'd've still been likely trapped. Successful postultimate molts are rarer than a friendly OBT
He's just so active... I could see it more ( euthanasia) if he were not moving much or seemed like he wasn't even trying but because of how alive he appears to be since he started to actively molt I'm finding it very hard to just put him in the freezer and before anyone says anything about smashing him with something there is NO WAY I could do that.... and I did not think that water was going to help him molt on his own I was just trying to put water under him because I knew he wasn't going to get it on his own but also I keep reading that applying water on a paintbrush to the old exoskeleton could help to slide it off even if there is only a slight chance it would help him I had to try. But thank you for the response truly...
 

MBullock

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He's just so active... I could see it more ( euthanasia) if he were not moving much or seemed like he wasn't even trying but because of how alive he appears to be since he started to actively molt I'm finding it very hard to just put him in the freezer and before anyone says anything about smashing him with something there is NO WAY I could do that.... and I did not think that water was going to help him molt on his own I was just trying to put water under him because I knew he wasn't going to get it on his own but also I keep reading that applying water on a paintbrush to the old exoskeleton could help to slide it off even if there is only a slight chance it would help him I had to try. But thank you for the response truly...
If he can actually still walk and eat just fine, after hardening enough, then by all means dont put him down. He will simply autotomize the limb. If the abdomen and carapace molted successfully, at least, maybe he will have a chance. i think just leave him alone now because at this point you'd be stressing him out.

When hes able to eat again, you can mush up his prey for him, give him bug guts and he can just slurp it up.
 

Leepbby

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If he can actually still walk and eat just fine, after hardening enough, then by all means dont put him down. He will simply autotomize the limb. If the abdomen and carapace molted successfully, at least, maybe he will have a chance. i think just leave him alone now because at this point you'd be stressing him out.

When hes able to eat again, you can mush up his prey for him, give him bug guts and he thank you

If he can actually still walk and eat just fine, after hardening enough, then by all means dont put him down. He will simply autotomize the limb. If the abdomen and carapace molted successfully, at least, maybe he will have a chance. i think just leave him alone now because at this point you'd be stressing him out.

When hes able to eat again, you can mush up his prey for him, give him bug guts and he can just slurp it up.
His carapace and abdomen are fully removed it is 3 of his legs that are stuck he is now just looking less like noodles, his legs that did make out if that makes any sense he is still quite active and I will just wait and see how he appears in the morning I did not know that they would stay so limber for this long only thing I can see to do is to wait and see.. thank you again it's much appreciated..
 

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