When to burrow in the burrow...

[Turtlynne]

hello all...I have several Ts who are "missing"...since November of last year (at least)...and at that point I already had notes that said"haven't seen them in a 'few' months...these Ts are anywhere from 3-4 years old now...I do understand that many of the Ts will 'go to ground', so to speak, for extended periods of time...so I have not considered disturbing them...the Ts in question are an OBT, a C. versicolor , a N. incei and a T. vagans - I can see the T. vagans 'sort of' - hard to explain the enclosure lay out but it may be/probably is death-curled...the others are just "gone"...ALL that said...at what point do I burrow in these burrows?...all seemed well when they went underground...thanks in advance for experience....and opinions...

 

[menavodi]

It is never easy to say. I would wait, they can stay underground for a much longer time than you experience right now. If you are not sure of the one that curled, but you can see her, look for any position change. If she lays in the same position for 48 hours I would check her out. Hope this helps.

 

[octanejunkie]

Hard to speculate, but that's a long time for all of them to be burrowed... got pics of the enclosures?

For safety sake, I would not go charging in looking for a burrowed juvenile or older OBT

Also, C. versicolor won't burrow

 

[Turtlynne]

It is never easy to say. I would wait, they can stay underground for a much longer time than you experience right now. If you are not sure of the one that curled, but you can see her, look for any position change. If she lays in the same position for 48 hours I would check her out. Hope this helps.

Hard to speculate, but that's a long time for all of them to be burrowed... got pics of the enclosures?

For safety sake, I would not go charging in looking for a burrowed juvenile or older OBT

Also, C. versicolor won't burrow

Lol...I guess I think of her(C.versicolor) "tunnel" as a burrow...hard to "burrow" when up a tree...she goes behind some tall leaning bark...
And is true...I really don't want to look for that OBT...is rather large!
Also...I am world's (maybe) worst photographer or would oblige...I don't think my efforts would help.(t-hee)

 

[Turtlynne]

It is never easy to say. I would wait, they can stay underground for a much longer time than you experience right now. If you are not sure of the one that curled, but you can see her, look for any position change. If she lays in the same position for 48 hours I would check her out. Hope this helps.

O my...we are well past the 48 hour stage... maybe I will brave-up and check on the vagans... thanks for the encouragement

 

[Enn49]

The secret with OBTs is to keep them as arboreals with a minimum amount of substrate to discourage them from burrowing and encourage them to web upwards. I appreciate it's a bit late for yours but if you do get the chance it's definitely worth doing so you get to see more of that glorious colour.

 

[Turtlynne]

O Enn...I miss seeing my OBT...up until late last year it did come out frequently... that's part of why I have concerns about bit "missing"...it has a terrific web and somewhere I learned not to give it a lot of substrate...I am thinking it has died in the hide.......it used to web over the opening but it's got an unclosed tunnel now... hellllllooooo! Are you in there?

 

[Enn49]

O Enn...I miss seeing my OBT...up until late last year it did come out frequently... that's part of why I have concerns about bit "missing"...it has a terrific web and somewhere I learned not to give it a lot of substrate...I am thinking it has died in the hide.......it used to web over the opening but it's got an unclosed tunnel now... hellllllooooo! Are you in there?

My big female would go into hiding for many months at a time. Is yours feeding, that was my only clue of life? They do like to worry us.

 

[Turtlynne]

My big female would go into hiding for many months at a time. Is yours feeding, that was my only clue of life? They do like to worry us.

oops sorry for the duplicate ...now can't get rid of it....runners go in and move around but no one comes out to eat...not since...maybe September...

 

[Enn49]

oops sorry for the duplicate ...now can't get rid of it....runners go in and move around but no one comes out to eat...not since...maybe September...

Don't worry I deleted it for you.
Are you removing the food items? If not the chances are they're being eaten underground.

 

[Arachnoclown]

Just be because they are burrowed doesnt mean you cant check up on them. Using a long stick or straw you can tickle the outside of the hide. Using a flashlight you should see some movement. If you dont see anything explore deeper until you see movement. If you see movement let them be ofcourse.

 

[Turtlynne]

Don't worry I deleted it for you.
Are you removing the food items? If not the chances are they're being eaten underground.

Well...I got my courage up this morning and unearthed T.vagans and C.versicolor...both are dead...I am not surprised - both are two of the first Ts I got about 3 years ago...I suspected they were both males....I think they had good lives...I enjoyed them thoroughly - they were both beautiful and lively for a long time...I am going to wait on the OBT...and N. Incei...I don't mind looking at "empty" enclosures....both are nicely webbed....

 

[Turtlynne]

Just be because they are burrowed doesnt mean you cant check up on them. Using a long stick or straw you can tickle the outside of the hide. Using a flashlight you should see some movement. If you dont see anything explore deeper until you see movement. If you see movement let them be ofcourse. View attachment 45272

I did "stick explore" at the openings and food is ignored...no response...thank you for the suggestion Arachnoclown... the angle to go further into these 2 hides is not good for anything but a "tear down"... maybe I will be brave tomorrow...or next week

 

[Enn49]

Well...I got my courage up this morning and unearthed T.vagans and C.versicolor...both are dead...I am not surprised - both are two of the first Ts I got about 3 years ago...I suspected they were both males....I think they had good lives...I enjoyed them thoroughly - they were both beautiful and lively for a long time...I am going to wait on the OBT...and N. Incei...I don't mind looking at "empty" enclosures....both are nicely webbed....

I'm so sorry. Their ages sound about right for them to have been males and lived their full lives but it doesn't ease the pain when they slip away.
Fingers crossed the other 2 are fine.

 

[menavodi]

Too bad. Sorry to hear that!

 

[Turtlynne]

Thanks...all...