Hamorii or Smithi??

[x_raphael_xx]

Hi!
A petshop near me just posted a pic of a smithi they have for sale.
It’s carapace seemed very similar to my hamorii, so after attempting to compare pics online I told him (In a private dm, I know the owner) that I thought his smithi was an hamorii as it was more similar to mine.
Now I’ve looked closer at my two, and I’m wondering if one of mine is actually a smithy.
Can someone with more knowledge and a keener eye confirm who is what!?

Pet shop ‘smithi’ (1)

My hamorii (2)

My hamorii (3 - who I now think may be a smithi?)

 

[Arachnoclown]

The easiest way to tell is by tge spermatheca when they are young. The pet shop smithi #1 is hard to tell in the photo. If you can get a clear photo of the Chelicerae that would help. Your hamorii #2 is a hamorii. The one in question #3 looks still pretty young which makes it harder to identify.

 

[x_raphael_xx]

I’ll see if I can get him to take a closer photo of no.1.

I’m still waiting on a molt for no.3, I suspect he’s a male, and he was going to be a potential boyfriend for no.2.
So I’d definitely like to identify him as I don’t want to unknowingly cross breed.

 

[x_raphael_xx]

Hopefully these help, but I suspect shes hiding the bits you need

 

[x_raphael_xx]

@Arachnoclown better photo of the suspected smithi

 

[x_raphael_xx]

Sorry for the bump but I'd like to get back to the owner whether I want to buy his girl or not

Is the shop T a smithi? If it is I'll get it, as what ever my suspected male turns out to be, I'll have a girlfriend for him

 

[Arachnoclown]

Sorry for the bump but I'd like to get back to the owner whether I want to buy his girl or not

Is the shop T a smithi? If it is I'll get it, as what ever my suspected male turns out to be, I'll have a girlfriend for him

It's a hamorii

 

[x_raphael_xx]

It's a hamorii

Oh no!
Thank you Much appreciated.

 

[DEXTER107]

I have a B also and I gave up trying to figure which one it is. As I won’t be breeding it really doesn’t matter. Whoever decided to split them up must be laughing his ass off. Just like the guys who do traffic patterns.

 

[Arachnoclown]

I have a B also and I gave up trying to figure which one it is. As I won’t be breeding it really doesn’t matter. Whoever decided to split them up must be laughing his ass off. Just like the guys who do traffic patterns.

They were never split up. Hamorri was always hamorri. Annithia and smithi were the same species described by two different scientists. Many years later they realized they were the same species and now it's just described as smithi. As adults they are Cleary two different spiders.

Top smithi
Bottom hamorri

 

[x_raphael_xx]

I have a B also and I gave up trying to figure which one it is. As I won’t be breeding it really doesn’t matter. Whoever decided to split them up must be laughing his ass off. Just like the guys who do traffic patterns.

I’d like to attempt to breed, so would like to be careful.
Also, I’d rather my friend wasn’t unknowingly selling a miss-labelled T from his shop. He’s testing the waters and seeing if adding Ts to his stock would be worth it.
He was sold it as a smithi, and I’d hate for him to get a bad rep as a seller.

 

[x_raphael_xx]

The easiest way to tell is by tge spermatheca when they are young. The pet shop smithi #1 is hard to tell in the photo. If you can get a clear photo of the Chelicerae that would help. Your hamorii #2 is a hamorii. The one in question #3 looks still pretty young which makes it harder to identify.

Would you believe, #3 useful molted this morning
I suspected a male, turns out little Autumn is a girl.
Her carapace is a lot more defined now. I’m guessing shes a Hamorii??