Chilean Rose

[justjosh1990]

Hey there!
I’m wondering if raising a Chilean rose tarantula (or any tarantulafrom a baby has any benefits verses purchasing an adult or juvenile? Particularly when it comes to handling.

Thanks!

 

[Tarantulafeets]

Some benefits I might be able to think of is that you get to watch it grow, but thats going to take a while (as in years) for it to become an adult. Slings are going to also be cheaper than adults from reputable sources, but are still pretty expensive ever since Chile banned exports.
Any particular reason you want to handle? They don't have memory, so they can never get "used to" being handled. I don't recommend it, as they don't benefit from it, and there is always the risk of the handler being bit or haired, and the t falling.

 

[Arachnoclown]

Tarantulas don't want to be held. Only humans want to hold things.

 

[justjosh1990]

Some benefits I might be able to think of is that you get to watch it grow, but thats going to take a while (as in years) for it to become an adult. Slings are going to also be cheaper than adults from reputable sources, but are still pretty expensive ever since Chile banned exports.
Any particular reason you want to handle? They don't have memory, so they can never get "used to" being handled. I don't recommend it, as they don't benefit from it, and there is always the risk of the handler being bit or haired, and the t falling.

Just curiosity. Just here to learn. Like I had no idea they do not have memory. Is this specific to Chilean rose tarantulas?
When it comes to my regal jumper I never thought to question this where she is so curious, sweet and docile. Where my male jumper is skiddish but observant.

 

[justjosh1990]

Tarantulas don't want to be held. Only humans want to hold things.

I love this! and it’s kind of a relief lol.

 

[Arachnoclown]

Just curiosity. Just here to learn. Like I had no idea they do not have memory. Is this specific to Chilean rose tarantulas?
When it comes to my regal jumper I never thought to question this where she is so curious, sweet and docile. Where my male jumper is skiddish but observant.

It pertains to all tarantulas. Jumpers have way better eyesight then tarantulas so they may appear smarter. Not really sure about them having a memory though. Someone here may know the answer.

 

[justjosh1990]

It pertains to all tarantulas. Jumpers have way better eyesight then tarantulas so they may appear smarter. Not really sure about them having a memory though. Someone here may know the answer.

That is so fascinating! I really appreciate you guys. Thanks for being so nice about it too, lol.

 

[birdonfire]

Spiders don't remember? https://uwm.edu/news/black-widow-spiders-weave-a-web-of-memories/

 

[octanejunkie]

It pertains to all tarantulas. Jumpers have way better eyesight then tarantulas so they may appear smarter. Not really sure about them having a memory though. Someone here may know the answer.

That is so fascinating! I really appreciate you guys. Thanks for being so nice about it too, lol.

A tarantula's "memory" is limited to its instinctive programming and sensory perception, for example: it senses movement and it reacts based on its programming following basic decision tree #1

1. Hungry: assess potential food item and acquire
2. Not hungry: rebuff; if threatened, go to decision tree #2 (flight or fight/threaten)

A tarantula may tolerate being held (walking on the soft pink tree) and it may not. Based on what it senses, it will revert to its instinctive programming and decision trees. It will never know you, or recognize you, beyond its instinctive programmed responses.

If you want to handle, safely, and be recognized, happily; get a dog.

 

[justjosh1990]

A tarantula's "memory" is limited to its instinctive programming and sensory perception, for example: it senses movement and it reacts based on its programming following basic decision tree #1

1. Hungry: assess potential food item and acquire
2. Not hungry: rebuff; if threatened, go to decision tree #2 (flight or fight/threaten)

A tarantula may tolerate being held (walking on the soft pink tree) and it may not. Based on what it senses, it will revert to its instinctive programming and decision trees. It will never know you, or recognize you, beyond its instinctive programmed responses.

If you want to handle, safely, and be recognized, happily; get a dog.

No want of these things, just a simple a question to know how these creatures feel. Thanks for the detailed response otherwise though.

side note: I have dogs.

 

[Arachnoclown]

It pertains to all tarantulas. Jumpers have way better eyesight then tarantulas so they may appear smarter. Not really sure about them having a memory though. Someone here may know the answer.

@justjosh1990 I just read a article and yes jumpers do have memory skills. They can even recognize you.

 

[DustyD]

Back to sling vs larger size tarantulas.

When I started about 8 months ago, I preferred my tarantulas about 1.5 to 2.5 inches, out of that tiny more vulnerable sling stage and into the stage where they are starting to show more colors and obviously size.

This gave me some experience and perhaps some insight. I would not have gotten as much from an adult as tempting as that is.

Fairly recently someone had a beautiful adult female for sale and I was sorely tempted. What kept my wallet in my pocket was that I don't have the space, I want to wait to see mine grow, and, oh yeah, that species is illegal where I live.

A few months ago I got two sub inch slings (both G. rosea) to add to my collection (now seven T's). They are just a delight. One lives to dig and build a wall at one end near some air holes. Maybe it's too cool and breezy at that end, but the other one does not do that.

My thoughts are go medium, then either supersize or downsize. Or both.

 

[TheInv4sion]

When I was 16 my G. porteri died while I was handling it (it fell when a loud made me flinch). Don't handle your Ts its a completely unnecessary risk. Also understand that if you buy an adult porteri/rosea they are typically pet rocks.

 

[Nurse Ratchet]

A tarantula's "memory" is limited to its instinctive programming and sensory perception, for example: it senses movement and it reacts based on its programming following basic decision tree #1

1. Hungry: assess potential food item and acquire
2. Not hungry: rebuff; if threatened, go to decision tree #2 (flight or fight/threaten)

A tarantula may tolerate being held (walking on the soft pink tree) and it may not. Based on what it senses, it will revert to its instinctive programming and decision trees. It will never know you, or recognize you, beyond its instinctive programmed responses.

If you want to handle, safely, and be recognized, happily; get a dog.

Or if you like tiny fuzzy things, rats are intelligent, trainable, remember you, and enjoy play time. Just throwing it out there...

 

[justjosh1990]

Or if you like tiny fuzzy things, rats are intelligent, trainable, remember you, and enjoy play time. Just throwing it out there...

I have 2 boys! Best pets ever. They’re both pushing 2 years old.