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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GarField000" data-source="post: 227972" data-attributes="member: 30890">Re-Hi .....Some have changed but not much. The second names have stayed the same with most.L.sazimai, T.vagans, T.ablopilosus .... The bumba is more a shock to me .. I still call it Bumba cabocla <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. Such a nice ring to it. And to be honest .. according to my breeder there are differences. One stays much smaller than the other one. I have no idea but we'll see.</blockquote>