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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tortoise Tom" data-source="post: 151100" data-attributes="member: 27883">Touchy subject. Here is a point of view from someone on your side, politically speaking. I'm pro freedom. I'm anti-government-telling-people-what-to-do. I don't apply this where its convenient for me and not elsewhere. I want my money, guns, land, and freedom left alone. Some people see the abortion issue differently than you or I, and they want the freedom to do as they please. Is it repulsive, despicable and disgusting? Yes, but they say the same thing about us having baby-killing guns. We know they are ignorant about guns, so we dismiss their idiocy. Perhaps rather than call them ignorant, I should say that they see the gun issue differently than you and I and they believe human lives are at stake, and that is more important than your freedom or my freedom. You see the abortion issue differently than they do, yet you wish to impose your will upon them because you believe human lives are at stake. In my view this makes us no better than them. I say: You don't like guns? Then don't have any, but leave me the hell alone. And: You think its a lifeless clump of cells? I don't have to agree, but that person should still have the freedom to do what they want. Or: Don't like guns? Then don't buy one. Think abortion is wrong? Then don't have one.I leave them alone, regardless of my opinion about when its a baby and when its not, because I want them to leave me alone when it comes to choosing what guns I want to own, train with, and use for any legal purpose I see fit.Gun control is a losing platform for every Dem that tries to stand on it. Ask HRC. Likewise, abortion is a losing platform for any R or RINO that tries to stand on it. I think our side has to let this one go. I think we need to do what we think is right, and let others choose what is right for themselves, in the same way we want them to stop trying to regulate our rights into oblivion because of their misguided ignorance. We seem to have reached a point in America where everybody wants to control everybody else. I don't want to control anybody, and I don't want anybody trying to control me. I'd like to return to freedom and minding my own business.</blockquote>

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