Small tarantula?

[Sage Exotics]

I have a five gallon aquarium that I don’t want to use as fish or any aquatics (although crabs are welcome) anymore, it’s pretty small (W 12”/D 6”/H 12”), and it is meant for fish so it’s not well ventilated, but I can put netting on the top and add ledges in there for spiders. I live in Canada and exotic pet selection is pretty sucky, so it should be pretty common. I wanted exotic cockroaches like Madagascan hissing or Dubia, but it’s very illegal to own ANY exotic cockroaches in Canada, and it’s too small for millipedes. It’s also too small for reptiles and non-aquatic amphibians (at least, any available ones), so arachnids are my last option. So any tarantula or scorpion species that can comfortably thrive in there? (OBTs are out of the question, I already have one but we bought him as a Brazilian red birdeater sling and my mom’s terrified of him)

 

[sdsnybny]

Ant larger T that gets 5-8" will do fine in a five gallon. You can also tip it on the edge add a well ventilated acrylic door/hinge system and have a great arboreal enclosure. My big female P. cancerides and N. tripepii both have 5 gallon aquariums for homes. her cork bark hide goes all the way across and is burred on the sides making two levels.

 

[sdsnybny]

This is a 2,5 gallon aquarium on edge with the acrylic door added for my adult Avic's

 

[Sage Exotics]

Mine doesn’t have a lot of floor space, so I’m not really comfortable putting a T that big in there, but are there any dwarfs that I could get?

 

[sdsnybny]

12x12x6 is a rough shape for a T. That wont make it possible to give any that like to burrow much depth at all without having the top right at the sub level. Small under 4" that doesn't burrow. D. diamantinensis. N. incei, P. scrofa, H. sp Columbia lg are a few that would work ok.

 

[Sage Exotics]

It’s 12” high, is that not enough to provide burrowing spiders places to burrow? My OBT seems fine with 2-3” of substrate, he has it piled up into a burrow. I’ll look into the species you mentioned, but I want as tiny a spider I can get that’s readily available (and not OW)

 

[sdsnybny]

It’s 12” high, is that not enough to provide burrowing spiders places to burrow? My OBT seems fine with 2-3” of substrate, he has it piled up into a burrow. I’ll look into the species you mentioned, but I want as tiny a spider I can get that’s readily available (and not OW)

OK I see I took "D" as depth but from the ground up not front to back...LOL. yeah there are lots of burrowers that will do good in there. you could give up to 8" of sub to burrow. Idiothele mira the trap door baboon, almost any of the smaller African baboons would do fine. H. cafreriana would be nice, C. darlingi maybe, E. uatuman or E. cyanognathus

 

[Sage Exotics]

Great! I’m sure I can find some suitable spider amongst these options! Thanks a bunch!

 

[Sage Exotics]

I really like the P. Scrofa, but is 3” leg span? There doesn’t seem to be any care sheets on them. I prefer species that don’t need moist substrate as I hate mites and mould, it’s just a hassle. I want a true dwarf, like no bigger than 3” leg span and laid-back, the quick movements of my OBT freak me out LOL, but my rose hair is so gentle I love that.

 

[PanzoN88]

I really like the P. Scrofa, but is 3” leg span? There doesn’t seem to be any care sheets on them. I prefer species that don’t need moist substrate as I hate mites and mould, it’s just a hassle. I want a true dwarf, like no bigger than 3” leg span and laid-back, the quick movements of my OBT freak me out LOL, but my rose hair is so gentle I love that.

P. scrofa are almost too easy to raise, i have a sling. They do not require much moisture at all, not to mention from my experience they are little war tanks come feeding time. if you want a true dwarf, might i recommend E. Sp. Yellow if you can find them or perhaps a K. brunnipes

 

[Sage Exotics]

Do you think green bottle blues are suitable for my setup? They seem really straight forward. I’ll look into your other suggestions. Thanks!

 

[PanzoN88]

Do you think green bottle blues are suitable for my setup? They seem really straight forward. I’ll look into your other suggestions. Thanks!

They don't really burrow wnd most grow to 5" DLS. Bone dry dubstrate, water dish, they web quite a bit, i think they could do well in there

 

[Sage Exotics]

Good! (Sorry what’s DLS? I’m still fairly new to abbreviations, is that leg span or body length?)

 

[PanzoN88]

Good! (Sorry what’s DLS? I’m still fairly new to abbreviations, is that leg span or body length?)

Diagonal leg span

1.2.3 is one male, two females, three unsexed (just decided to throw this in incase you do not know about this yet)

LP= Lasiadora parahybana (more extra abbreviations)

LPS= local pet store

 

[Whitelightning777]

Grammostola species maule world be a great fit.

There are options for ventilation in a fish tank. I just had to contend with this with my newest arrival, challenge was to maintain humidity and temperature at the same time.

The first option is to cover the center of the cover and set up a hot side/cold side configuration. The hot air will rise up and cool air will move downward to replace it.

The second option is to place a very small USB or CPU fan over the top and pull air upwards. These are quiet and very gentle.

The third option, especially if your cover is acryilc, is using a small air stone or diffuser together with a small whisper quiet low powered air pump.

The stone goes inside with the stem sticking out. A hose is then placed on the other side. The stone or diffuser will prevent any type of directional air pulse which might upset the tarantula. It need not be placed inside the water dish or placed in water.

Remember, cross ventilation involves an very small amount of gas movement entering into the tank. Consider 10 pin holes in a deli cup going around the top sitting on a shelf. How many CCs of air per day actually exchange per day? How long does it take the total air volume to exchange itself?

The answer is that it's extremely low.

The main requirement is that the air isn't completely stagnet. You don't want mold or CO2 or gases produced during decay to be more and more concentrated.

People have been moving air within fish tanks for probably 100 years.

Everything is strictly my opinion. I reject any guru status.

 

[Sage Exotics]

Ah good good! I should be able to find one at the next expo, if not I’ll find a Breeder I can order from as they don’t seem too uncommon. Thanks a ton!

 

[Enn49]

A few dwarf Ts that I keep, none growing to more than 2.5" dls are :-
Aphonopelma sp. montane
Catumiri argentinense
Heterothele gabonensis
Heterothele villosella
Holothele sanguiniceps
Kochiana brunnipes
Metriopelma sp. Aragua
Phlogiellus sp. baeri
Ami sp Panama

Try looking at http://www.tarantulacanada.ca/price.php

 

[Sage Exotics]

Whew lots more species! Thank you!

 

[Sage Exotics]

I really like the H. Villosella, seems to be what I’m looking for but they don’t seem too common, and they’re old world. I agree they’re beautiful, but in Canada if it’s not common it’s next to impossible to get and costs a fortune, so I probably won’t be able to get that. P. Scrofa still stands out to me with the green bottle blue, but does anyone know it’s size? I’ve gotten three inches but is that DLS or body length? I know they’re supposed to be smaller than Chilean rose, and mine old girl is about three inches body length.

 

[Enn49]

I really like the H. Villosella, seems to be what I’m looking for but they don’t seem too common, and they’re old world. I agree they’re beautiful, but in Canada if it’s not common it’s next to impossible to get and costs a fortune, so I probably won’t be able to get that. P. Scrofa still stands out to me with the green bottle blue, but does anyone know it’s size? I’ve gotten three inches but is that DLS or body length? I know they’re supposed to be smaller than Chilean rose, and mine old girl is about three inches body length.

Tarantula Canada have an H. Villosella for $15