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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Padraig Sea" data-source="post: 209545" data-attributes="member: 14430">No idea why you think this is “fear mongering” but if you’re intent on ignoring reality, have at it. Well done capping it with “I’m not saying this is good or bad legislation” as if you aren’t simply taking a contrarian view of anything critical of it.  The SoI determines what “minimal numbers” are; that’s literally in the document you just scanned to cherry pick items that you feel supports your point of view. That’s also not contrary to anything I’ve stated; this is a qualifier to allow entry, not a rule USFWS has to follow. Likewise, the public input provision is to approve the species for entry. Again, this is you selectively interpreting snippets of the text without actually reading it. Under current law there is a public commenting period prior to the addition of a species to, say, ESA, or treatment as an injurious species. Under this law the opposite would happen. To establish a species as eligible for import, a public comment period would take place before it could be legally imported. That last paragraph exposes how utterly ignorant of the situation you are. You opened this by suggesting I’m misleading people regarding a law that hasn’t even passed yet, but here you are confusing current situations with this pending legislation. “Founder stock” is breeding stock; given that Chilean tarantulas have indisputably been exported legally, USFWS’ current application and enforcement of Lacey would not apply. Their claim is that any species that they claim was never exported legally cannot enter the United States, even if it’s captive bred and coming from Europe. It started with Brazil; it now includes many others and every species listed as endemic to those countries. Do you actually keep exotic animals? It’s stunning that someone who does would blindly defend this awful legislation and attack people trying to fight it.</blockquote>

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