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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CEC" data-source="post: 126096" data-attributes="member: 23836">I do see most of those spp. still via facebook the rarest being Crassicrus lamanai, those have pretty much died out. I have seen some pics in the last 5 years from old timer hobbyists of their old females... but last time I checked they are all deceased now.Lack of breeding is the obvious answer. The hobbyist turn over is ridiculous, even you said you left and came back, right?A lot on that list AFAIK aren't in that high of demand and/or aren't the easiest to breed either. Also a lot are long lived and take many years before a new generation can hatch. You put all that together and I can see why they aren't as common as they once were. ...And in some cases labels have changed because they were misidentified and actually another species, for example (minax -> vonwirthi) (anax -> hentzi). Both those species have a very small range compared to the other and are almost morphologically identical.</blockquote>