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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Martin Oosthuysen" data-source="post: 36953" data-attributes="member: 1070">Okay you take it from that point of view and one must respect it,as I have at this moment that has not fallen into that realm. The chances are their for this to happen, this has been said by others. As for knowingly doing this to purposely hurt an animal,I can't see someone doing that. Otherwise we would have spider fights,like I know some are doing underground in the region where I live. That in my point of view is purposefully done,what happens when a person tries the above is not to hurt or cause injury but to try something so many others have. Saying no one shouldn't,will not change the fact they will try. I have the communal setups, should I now go and disband them even though I have had no reason to ? You do have valid points,but lets say I met up with you at a stage when you still had your setups how would you feel if I attacked your way of doing things just because I disagreed ? I would be more willing to learn,if you gave me advice without judgement. Let's take this whole thing and use it as an example,person x - you can have a communal setup,but it has a huge chance for failure my advice any signs rather break them up to at least go and read up on these setups that have failed. Go and look at the damage that occurred,look at the results of others. I am just a person that believes in constructive criticism or advice,not forcible or judgemental.  If I get people that dislike me for that, it's fine. I like working with people sharing learning,and making it an enjoyable experience.</blockquote>

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