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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Poec54" data-source="post: 38352" data-attributes="member: 3524">You shouldn't be going by tibial spurs because in almost 30 genera males don't have them (the term 'hook out' should be phased out).  Look at the end of the palps for the emboli folded underneath.  Those are the insertion organs, that's what makes an adult male. If you're buying a spider that you can examine before purchasing, don't blame the seller if you pick out an adult male.  You should know how to do that before your buy.  Most pet stores have low paid, high-turnover employees who get little training, and can't possibly know all the merchandise and animals they carry.</blockquote>