Any ideas? (species?)

[Phil]

I recently took in someone else's collection (posted to me so didn't see them beforehand as I know the person pretty well and she was listing as she had previously bought them as).

This (see picture) was listed as a female B albiceps. I am not convinced though? The legs seem too brown (not balck) and have different markings, the hairs on the abdomen don't seem right and she is really big (a good six inches) which I have never seen an albiceps get that big before when I have had adults before.

Carapace is the only bit I do think is pure albiceps. My good friend @Casey K. is looking into this one as well but what say you guys?

Aphonopelma chalcodes is my latest thought?

 

[Arachnoclown]

Heres a few pics of my female Alphonopelma chalcodes

 

[KezyGLA]

It’s most likely hybridised Brachypelma. Which are not rare in the hobby unfortunately.

I dont know of any Aphonopelma growing so large.

 

[Phil]

It’s most likely hybridised Brachypelma. Which are not rare in the hobby unfortunately.

I dont know of any Aphonopelma growing so large.

that was what @Casey K. was thinking too. any ideas what with? I am actually growing fond if it now.....LOL

 

[Casey K.]

Klaasi/Albiceps would be my guess.....if i am not mistaken, Klaasi and Boehmi are the only 2 brachy's that have the solid leg coloration from the femur down. Given the coloration from the femur down on yours is on the lighter side, my guess would be klaasi.....but it's just a guess based on physical characteristics.

 

[Casey K.]

It’s most likely hybridised Brachypelma. Which are not rare in the hobby unfortunately.

I dont know of any Aphonopelma growing so large.

I told him that via pm, lol....didn't wanna troll his sh*t, lmao.....

The sad part about it is that if this is indeed a hybridized brachy and it just so happens to be albiceps/klaasi then this had to have definitely been an intentional pairing and not some accident. It is very easy to distinguish the difference between the 2 species both male and female.

 

[Whitelightning777]

If it's a hybrid, just don't breed it!! I wouldn't euthanize an otherwise perfectly healthy tarantula.

Brachys can have regional differences when within the same species.

 

[Phil]

I told him that via pm, lol....didn't wanna troll his sh*t, lmao.....

The sad part about it is that if this is indeed a hybridized brachy and it just so happens to be albiceps/klaasi then this had to have definitely been an intentional pairing and not some accident. It is very easy to distinguish the difference between the 2 species both male and female.

So we are gonna go with Brahypelma "klasiceps" then? ...LOL
You all know that I do not condone hybridization, but neither do I condone doing anything but care for a healthy spider. This came into my collection by accident so don't go all "arachnoboards' on me!

 

[Casey K.]

So we are gonna go with Brahypelma "klasiceps" then? ...LOL
You all know that I do not condone hybridization, but neither do I condone doing anything but care for a healthy spider. This came into my collection by accident so don't go all "arachnoboards' on me!

Don't worry about "AB", Phil....I got this sh*t, lol! I am still a member there (one of the few good ones that are left, lol- anyone that disagrees can go f* themself). I tell folks I know over there about this forum and how friendly everyone is. A wonderful community and @Enn49 along with the other mods/staff members do a wonderful job with keeping the ASSHOLES at bay (if i may say so, myself).... CHEERS!

 

[Enn49]

Don't worry about "AB", Phil....I got this sh*t, lol! I am still a member there (one of the few good ones that are left, lol- anyone that disagrees can go f* themself). I tell folks I know over there about this forum and how friendly everyone is. A wonderful community and @Enn49 along with the other mods/staff members do a wonderful job with keeping the ASSHOLES at bay (if i may say so, myself).... CHEERS!

Thank you for those kind words
I know what it's like to be slated on AB so I do my best to prevent it happening here. We all have to start somewhere and where better to learn than a forum like TF where no one puts you down and it's one big happy family.

 

[Casey K.]

Thank you for those kind words
I know what it's like to be slated on AB so I do my best to prevent it happening here. We all have to start somewhere and where better to learn than a forum like TF where no one puts you down and it's one big happy family.

Absolutely, Enn and I couldn't agree with you more!

 

[Orangebiteything]

It’s most likely hybridised Brachypelma. Which are not rare in the hobby unfortunately.

I dont know of any Aphonopelma growing so large.

Yea, I can’t quite seem to place that color carapace. She doesn’t really have chaco like coloration, but some striping. Dense healthy girl regardless!

 

[PanzoN88]

I would just follow what @KezyGLA said above, 99.999999%, nah, let's just say 100% of the time he is correct.

 

[Whitelightning777]

Don't worry about "AB", Phil....I got this sh*t, lol! I am still a member there (one of the few good ones that are left, lol- anyone that disagrees can go f* themself). I tell folks I know over there about this forum and how friendly everyone is. A wonderful community and @Enn49 along with the other mods/staff members do a wonderful job with keeping the ASSHOLES at bay (if i may say so, myself).... CHEERS!

Oh no!! You mentioned the really really bad place.

I'm gonna have to start posting stuff here that doesn't accomplish anything productive over there.

Yes, some of them may know something, but they give people bad advice on purpose.

The thing with hybrids that gets complex is that any living thing can mutate. If you had a clutch of 50 of them like that, probably a hybrid. With only one specimen, it can be either a mutation, hybrid, or some other species not commonly seen in the hobby or that you simply hadn't considered or known existed.

 

[Phil]

Oh no!! You mentioned the really really bad place.

I'm gonna have to start posting stuff here that doesn't accomplish anything productive over there.

Yes, some of them may know something, but they give people bad advice on purpose.

The thing with hybrids that gets complex is that any living thing can mutate. If you had a clutch of 50 of them like that, probably a hybrid. With only one specimen, it can be either a mutation, hybrid, or some other species not commonly seen in the hobby or that you simply hadn't considered or known existed.

Ha ha....no intension of doing anything with this one apart from just looking after it to the best if my ability (along with the other 184 Ts I have) and enjoy it for what it is.... A rather pretty, if somewhat a bit of a mystery, spider

 

[Whitelightning777]

Still, it might be something rare not often seen which would be interesting.

 

[Casey K.]

Still, it might be something rare not often seen which would be interesting.

True! Someone may have stumbled across a new species and not known. Anything is possible.

 

[Phil]

True! Someone may have stumbled across a new species and not known. Anything is possible.

The Brachypelma Philipus.....ha ha. New species.

 

[Casey K.]

The Brachypelma Philipus.....ha ha. New species.

Lol

 

[Whitelightning777]

B unobtainium !!