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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tortoise Tom" data-source="post: 134604" data-attributes="member: 27883">Well I agree with you, but half the country has a list of insults and ugly names for us because we don't agree with their socialism.I attend a tortoise conference in Phoenix every year and Phil Goss, the President of US ARK, has been there to address the crowd and keep us up to date on US ARK's efforts to help people who keep animals as pets. The man is exceptionally well spoken and articulate. He is a first rate spokesman for our cause. I endorse and support him and his organization 100%. He is the best chance I know of at slowing down the animal rights tide as far as reptiles and inverts are concerned.</blockquote>