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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TarantulaList" data-source="post: 240463" data-attributes="member: 49832">Haha yeah I definitely wasn't trying to critique anyone. This is one where I see the value in the term, but I also see some people getting confused by the term, so I understand both the people who use it and the people who try to steer away from it. Either way, when we are somewhere like this where we can have a nuanced discussion about what we actually mean by the term it's a non-issue since we can all quickly get on the same page about what a proper setup needs to look like.</blockquote>