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Did I not say she was sharp? One thing, my reactions are not knee jerk, and Im not trying to be edgy. Im too old for that..Its my nature to question, especially when ideas are crammed down my throat by a disapproving horde(not y'all)..Ive always been that way. So anyway, thanks for explaining what "hobby form" means, I never realized it was caused by speciation. (Never heard of it, but it makes sense.)

But speciation would be different than hybridization, right? Its slight changes caused by isolation. We're doing that by captive breeding, every time we breed two captive bred spiders. So we're changing all of them anyway? So..why not make a species? And Im not twisting words to suit my argument, I don't think. I think new species come from wild crossbreeding, in fact Im fairly certain they do..where else? Baumgarteni and a few others are unique from wild crossbreeding? I think not..thats kind of strange to think that. I have two species in my area, maybe three, all Aphonopelma. Moderatum coexist in the same habitat as anax. You think they dont mingle? You think all the anax and moderatum in my area are pure? Never mated? Have you seen male moderatum? They look very, very similar to anax.