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Is this a B. Hamori or B. Smithi that is the question
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<blockquote data-quote="Eighth Eye Blind" data-source="post: 239184" data-attributes="member: 49683"><p>Here's a comparison from the paper where they were separated. </p><p></p><p>For carapaces, the two on the left, 50 & 51, are <em>B. smithii.</em> The one of the right, 52, is <em>B. hamorii.</em></p><p></p><p>The top set of legs, 53-56, are <em>B. smithii.</em> The bottom, 57-60, are <em>B. hamorii</em>.</p><p></p><p>This from Mendoza, Jorge & Francke, Oscar. (2017). Systematic revision of <em>Brachypelma</em> red-kneed tarantulas (Araneae : Theraphosidae), and the use of DNA barcodes to assist in the identification and conservation of CITES-listed species. <em>Invertebrate Systematics. 31(2)</em>. 157-179. 10.1071/IS16023. You can get a full copy of the paper with other, more detailed images <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316880941_Systematic_revision_of_Brachypelma_red-kneed_tarantulas_Araneae_Theraphosidae_and_the_use_of_DNA_barcodes_to_assist_in_the_identification_and_conservation_of_CITES-listed_species" target="_blank"><u>HERE</u></a>.</p><p></p><p>There's even more information and pics of all of the <em>Brachypelma</em> species in Mendoza, Jorge & Francke, Oscar. (2019). Systematic revision of Mexican threatened tarantulas <em>Brachypelma</em> (Araneae: Theraphosidae: Theraphosinae), with a description of a new genus, and implications on the conservation. <em>Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society</em>. <em>XX.</em> 1-66. 10.1093/zoolinnean/zlz046. You can get that one <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Oscar-Francke/publication/345450981_Systematic_revision_of_Mexican_threatened_tarantulas_Brachypelma_Araneae_Theraphosidae_Theraphosinae_with_a_description_of_a_new_genus_and_implications_on_the_conservation/links/618564af3068c54fa5af9e81/Systematic-revision-of-Mexican-threatened-tarantulas-Brachypelma-Araneae-Theraphosidae-Theraphosinae-with-a-description-of-a-new-genus-and-implications-on-the-conservation.pdf?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19" target="_blank"><u>HERE</u></a>.</p><p></p><p>(BTW, the senior author on these, Oscar Franke, is an arachnology god walking amongst mere mortals. Bow down to him should you ever be lucky enough to meet.)</p><p></p><p>I'd call that a <em>smithii</em> based on your pics but I'd have to see it with my own eyes to be sure. </p><p></p><p>Hope this helps!</p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]76328[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eighth Eye Blind, post: 239184, member: 49683"] Here's a comparison from the paper where they were separated. For carapaces, the two on the left, 50 & 51, are [I]B. smithii.[/I] The one of the right, 52, is [I]B. hamorii.[/I] The top set of legs, 53-56, are [I]B. smithii.[/I] The bottom, 57-60, are [I]B. hamorii[/I]. This from Mendoza, Jorge & Francke, Oscar. (2017). Systematic revision of [I]Brachypelma[/I] red-kneed tarantulas (Araneae : Theraphosidae), and the use of DNA barcodes to assist in the identification and conservation of CITES-listed species. [I]Invertebrate Systematics. 31(2)[/I]. 157-179. 10.1071/IS16023. You can get a full copy of the paper with other, more detailed images [URL='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/316880941_Systematic_revision_of_Brachypelma_red-kneed_tarantulas_Araneae_Theraphosidae_and_the_use_of_DNA_barcodes_to_assist_in_the_identification_and_conservation_of_CITES-listed_species'][U]HERE[/U][/URL]. There's even more information and pics of all of the [I]Brachypelma[/I] species in Mendoza, Jorge & Francke, Oscar. (2019). Systematic revision of Mexican threatened tarantulas [I]Brachypelma[/I] (Araneae: Theraphosidae: Theraphosinae), with a description of a new genus, and implications on the conservation. [I]Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society[/I]. [I]XX.[/I] 1-66. 10.1093/zoolinnean/zlz046. You can get that one [URL='https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Oscar-Francke/publication/345450981_Systematic_revision_of_Mexican_threatened_tarantulas_Brachypelma_Araneae_Theraphosidae_Theraphosinae_with_a_description_of_a_new_genus_and_implications_on_the_conservation/links/618564af3068c54fa5af9e81/Systematic-revision-of-Mexican-threatened-tarantulas-Brachypelma-Araneae-Theraphosidae-Theraphosinae-with-a-description-of-a-new-genus-and-implications-on-the-conservation.pdf?_tp=eyJjb250ZXh0Ijp7ImZpcnN0UGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIiwicGFnZSI6InB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIn19'][U]HERE[/U][/URL]. (BTW, the senior author on these, Oscar Franke, is an arachnology god walking amongst mere mortals. Bow down to him should you ever be lucky enough to meet.) I'd call that a [I]smithii[/I] based on your pics but I'd have to see it with my own eyes to be sure. Hope this helps! [ATTACH type="full"]76328[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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