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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kormath" data-source="post: 84212" data-attributes="member: 4199">I agree with [USER=3458]@Enn49[/USER] those are good starters to get back into the hobby with.  Cheap and durable.  Give us a bit more info if you can, how were they housed, feeding schedules, room temps, humidity....?  Probably won't be able to say "oh yeah that's what did them in" but maybe give some pointers for the next one <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>