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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rs50matt" data-source="post: 172659" data-attributes="member: 27872">[ATTACH=full]45987[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]45986[/ATTACH]I keep our E Murinus in these enclosures (1.8l braplast)  the sub is only around 3.5” high but is 6.5” square so plenty of sub to dig (T is around 3”) what octanejunkie said is accurate. It’s a pet hole if you move the enclosure but I do see it out (and our C Minax) most nights and when you do see it clearly without a lid it’s rewarding <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />  IMO if your starting out in the hobby there are much better choices. On the other hand... if it’s a Species you really want do your research and get 1.  Sorry for the long boring reply <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </blockquote>