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T. vagans acting weird

ItsukinoKira

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Hi everyone!

Today I was checking on my tarantulas and I noticed my T. vagans kinda curled up.
I immediately tried to move it and fall but after that it started moving.
Make it walk towards its water bowl and noticed it dragged some of its legs. I grabbed it to check if it would climb and took this picture.
It has been acting normal until today, I don't know what happened.
Is something wrong with it?


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ItsukinoKira

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I already put in in ICU... It didn't drink water when put on top of its water dish.

It's still alive but I really don't know what's wrong or what else I can do.
 

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tricia.w.

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Awe! I hope shes ok! Id offer advice but I'm really not an expert.. she's not getting ready to molt is she? Or possibly fed a bug from outside? Sometimes, from outside, they will eat/touch bug killer and it could hurt the spider.. but yeah, I really hope you can solve the problem!!!
 

ItsukinoKira

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Awe! I hope shes ok! Id offer advice but I'm really not an expert.. she's not getting ready to molt is she? Or possibly fed a bug from outside? Sometimes, from outside, they will eat/touch bug killer and it could hurt the spider.. but yeah, I really hope you can solve the problem!!!

I checked her because I'm really stressed. It seemed it was not moving anymore and grabbed her to check but she moved her legs kinda normal but clumsy.
I thought she would molt soon because has refused eating since november but was active and normal this whole time and her abdomen is quite plump.
Recently I dropped a redrunner ****roach on her enclosure and it disappeared but it was not taken from outside.
 

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I checked her because I'm really stressed. It seemed it was not moving anymore and grabbed her to check but she moved her legs kinda normal but clumsy.
I thought she would molt soon because has refused eating since november but was active and normal this whole time and her abdomen is quite plump.
Recently I dropped a redrunner ****roach on her enclosure and it disappeared but it was not taken from outside.
Is that a new food to her?
 

Oursapoil

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Hi,
The T doesn't seem to be acting normal indeed. Could we please have a picture of the whole enclosure?
If the video posted is from today, it is not in premolt as you can clearly see a tan abdomen skin where it probably kicked some hair. The one thing that puzzles me is that you mentioned it is a T. vagans, but in my opinion doesn't look like one. How long has this T been with you, do you know its age?
 

ItsukinoKira

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Hi,
The T doesn't seem to be acting normal indeed. Could we please have a picture of the whole enclosure?
If the video posted is from today, it is not in premolt as you can clearly see a tan abdomen skin where it probably kicked some hair. The one thing that puzzles me is that you mentioned it is a T. vagans, but in my opinion doesn't look like one. How long has this T been with you, do you know its age?
Hi, yes. This is the enclosure. It's empty since it's still on ICU.

I've had it since march 2021 but it hasn't molted since. That's a picture from september and it has looked the same these months.
 

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Oursapoil

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Thank you.
The last picture looks a lot more like a vagans. She is due for a molt (her coloration is fairly "washed out") but I would have expected the skin of her abdomen to be darker if she was close to it. The enclosure doesn't look bad, but I would consider maybe a little less water in the substrate (you can see the humidity going through the substrate under your water dish). I do not believe looking at the enclosure and her abdomen that your T is dehydrated.
Is she in a warm enough place? Where do you leave?
 

ItsukinoKira

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Hi,
The T doesn't seem to be acting normal indeed. Could we please have a picture of the whole enclosure?
If the video posted is from today, it is not in premolt as you can clearly see a tan abdomen skin where it probably kicked some hair. The one thing that puzzles me is that you mentioned it is a T. vagans, but in my opinion doesn't look like one. How long has this T been with you, do you know its age?
Ah sorry, forgot to answer regarding the age.

According to the document I received when purchased, it should have been around 1-2 years old.
 

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ItsukinoKira

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Thank you.
The last picture looks a lot more like a vagans. She is due for a molt (her coloration is fairly "washed out") but I would have expected the skin of her abdomen to be darker if she was close to it. The enclosure doesn't look bad, but I would consider maybe a little less water in the substrate (you can see the humidity going through the substrate under your water dish). I do not believe looking at the enclosure and her abdomen that your T is dehydrated.
Is she in a warm enough place? Where do you leave?
Maybe the water was because I refilled the dish right before taking the video that I uploaded a while ago and tried to make her drink.
I think that the cold could be a problem but yesterday it seemed totally normal. I'm from Mexico City.
 

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It kinda looks better. It's not very noticeable but it looks more like it's standing rather than just laying down.

I'm just really hopeful but I don't know how long should I keep her like this to be sure.
 

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Oursapoil

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Maybe the water was because I refilled the dish right before taking the video that I uploaded a while ago and tried to make her drink.
I think that the cold could be a problem but yesterday it seemed totally normal. I'm from Mexico City.
What is the temperature where the T is during the day?
 

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What is the temperature where the T is during the day?
Maybe around 15°C - 18°C right now that it's been cloudy and the temperature dropped recently.
Right now I put a heater for the entire room so my other tarantula doesn't have any problems and to help this one.
 

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Ok, that’s about 55-65 F, it is a little cold for day temperature, especially if it gets colder at night.
Make sure the air circulates in the room as you are warming it progressively.
Please update us tomorrow but I would consider taking her out of the ICU and back to her enclosure.
P.S: did you had anything to the enclosure recently? Did you use (or someone might have used) any chemicals in this room?
 
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