B. Smithi or Hamorii ID please?

[jrh3]

Is this smithi or Hamorii?

 

[ilovebrachys]

I'd say smithi... @Arachnoclown @Casey K. Will hopefully confirm if I'm wrong or right lol

 

[jrh3]

I'd say smithi... @Arachnoclown @Casey K. Will hopefully confirm if I'm wrong or right lol

I bought it as a smithi but im cool with either way.

 

[Casey K.]

I bought it as a smithi but im cool with either way.

When exactly did you buy it as a Smithi?

 

[jrh3]

When exactly did you buy it as a Smithi?

today, the guy had it for 4 years now. Was said to be acapulco local i think.

its 4.5 inch female. He had it since 1 inch.

 

[Grape Apple Pie]

It is Brachypelma hamorii, ex. smithi. In other words it is not the Brachypelma smithi, ex. annitha.

 

[jrh3]

It is Brachypelma hamorii, ex. smithi. In other words it is not the Brachypelma smithi, ex. annitha.

care to explain how you know?

 

[Grape Apple Pie]

care to explain how you know?

The best I can say in so many words is the Brachypelma smithi ex annitha coloration is very pastel and smooth throughout breaks in color. As Brachypelma harmorii ex smithi has a distorted coloration. Darker.

 

[Casey K.]

Here is a picture of my mature male Brachypelma smithi (ex annitha)

 

[Casey K.]

today, the guy had it for 4 years now. Was said to be acapulco local i think.

its 4.5 inch female. He had it since 1 inch.

If he purchased it as a smithi 4 years ago, I believe that was BEFORE the revision on these two species. Back then, the "Mexican Red Knee" now known as B. hamorii was known as B. smithi and the "Mexican GIANT Red Knee" was known as Brachypelma annitha. The revision changed the name of Brachypelma annitha to Brachypelma smithi. Now, Brachypelma hamorii is your common Mexican Red Knee that probably started the tarantula hobby.

 

[jrh3]

If he purchased it as a smithi 4 years ago, I believe that was BEFORE the revision on these two species. Back then, the "Mexican Red Knee" now known as B. hamorii was known as B. smithi and the "Mexican GIANT Red Knee" was known as Brachypelma annitha. The revision changed the name of Brachypelma annitha to Brachypelma smithi. Now, Brachypelma hamorii is your common Mexican Red Knee that probably started the tarantula hobby.

safe to say Hamorii then?

 

[Casey K.]

safe to say Hamorii then?

Yes

 

[jrh3]

Yes

Nice, i have a prenult male for her now

 

[Casey K.]

Nice, i have a prenult male for her now

If it helps, my mature male B. smithi (ex annitha) has a leg span of 6". B. smithi get MUCH larger than B. hamorri.

 

[jrh3]

If it helps, my mature male B. smithi (ex annitha) has a leg span of 6". B. smithi get MUCH larger than B. hamorri.

my prenult male Hamorii is sitting at 6 inches now and not even mature lol

 

[Arachnoclown]

Is this smithi or Hamorii?

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Brachypelma hamorii

 

[jrh3]

Here is an updated pic of it. Still Hamorii?

 

[Grape Apple Pie]

Here is an updated pic of it. Still Hamorii?
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If that is the same tarantula as the first one posted then it is still hamorii. Imma gonna wanna see a photo of him? Unsrunched-up to include the carapace.

If you had both hamorii and smithi you would know the difference. Its night and day.

 

[Grape Apple Pie]

PS, is he mature?

 

[Grape Apple Pie]

One more thing. If that is the same tarantula, again, same tarantula, why does it look like a T that was just unpacked?