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3 New Curly Hairs

Discussion in 'Brachypelma' started by Tortoise Tom, May 25, 2018.

  1. Tortoise Tom

    Tortoise Tom Well-Known Member

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    Got some new spiders a couple of days ago from LLL. These guys are bigger than a sling, but still on the small side. Set them up on Tuesday afternoon and offered their first food with me this morning. I'm pleased to report that all 3 immediately pounced on their little Blatta lateralis.

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    Enn49 Moderator Staff Member 3 Year Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Congrats :). I just adore curlies.
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    Arachnoclown Well-Known Member Premium Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Great looking T's... congratulations. :T:
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    PanzoN88 Well-Known Member

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    Nice adds, I have four myself (three Nicaraguan, one hobby form), they are so easy to keep.
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    Kymura Well-Known Member 3 Year Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    I think all of us love the curlys ^.~ Gratz
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    Tortoise Tom Well-Known Member

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    The ad said these are "Honduran". What are the differences between the different types?

    When they tag their very first meal in mid air before it even hits the substrate, whats not to love? :) I did my time with plenty of rose hairs in years past. Spiders that don't want to eat are no fun. Not for me anyway. I'm loving these guys. I started them off with a small meal just so I could feed them again in a couple of days.
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    PanzoN88 Well-Known Member

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    I think the Honduran is the so called hobby form, but I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject.
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    LC72uk Moderator Staff Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Congrats on new arrivals..........:):T::T::T:
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    I'm not either. I'm accustomed to hearing a common name, latin name, and frequently a country of origin, but the term "hobby form" is new to me. That seems like some sort of selectively bred color morph that doesn't exist in the wild, if I were to draw a parallel with snakes or tropical fish. If anyone wants to take a stab at explaining what that term means in the tarantula world, I'd love to learn.
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    Enn49 Moderator Staff Member 3 Year Member 1,000+ Post Club

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    Honduran's are the hobby form and Nicaraguan's are classed as the true form and the more hairy of the 2.
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    PanzoN88 Well-Known Member

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    In the past some irresponsible individuals crossed B. albopilosum (Honduran most likely) with B. vagans and probably some other similar species as well, which led to the term "hobby form"
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    Oh nooooo… So might mine be hybrids??? That would be a darn shame. If they are, or if there is a chance that they are, I simply won't ever breed them. I'll just enjoy them as individuals and let them live out their lives.
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    I think they have been around so long now that it doesn't matter as long as the Nicaraguans stay pure.
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    All the same, I'm glad to have a better idea of what the term "hobby form" means now. Thanks to all.
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    Nice looking curly hairs
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    I had thought the Honduran was just less hairy because of regional differences with the Nicaraguan? I know some idiots were crossing curlies with vagans and circulating them back then, but thought that was a seperate deal, and most ended up in the UK?..now I have to read up on it I guess.
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    Very nice. I plan on getting one of these next.
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    It could have happened how it did with some fish, in particular the severum but I'm sure lots of Lake Malawi mbuna too.
    Specimens are collected from the wild, often bought from native children and bred before it was realised that there were several species or subspecies. These original batches are bred and a new fish is released to the hobby.
    By the time it is realised that there are more than one species the "hobby form" is well established and breeds true, essentially a new species not found in nature has been created, it breeds true so cannot really be classed as a hybrid anymore.
    This could have easily happened to and probably has happened to Australian Tarantulas because for a long time science only recognised two species. We still have very few described species but hobbyists are doing all they can to try and keep localities separate, but unintentional and intentional hybridization must occur.
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    The curly hair is a wonderful spider and a first time one for many people. Sadly I don't have one or the room for one.
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    -gasps- Impossible! there is always room for a curly! sit it on top of one of the bigger enclosures!
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