proper enclosure? ?

[Alejando]

Fee days ago I went to a expo in wheaton, il and bought my first arch an avic.versicolor and I'm just wonder if I have it in the proper enclosure for its size along with its setup. The tube in the middle is partially filled with dirt with an hole and a opening big enough for it to go in if wanted to. Basically a terrarium inside a terrarium

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Hello
I don't know that style enclosure at all,first time to see it. I will say avics need space to climb if need be,a plant etc to anchor web. General care is to add a water dish and keep substrate dry,but these are fun arboreal species. In the wild they are seen making nests as low as few meters in houses,traveling over water.

They sometimes make nests so low,when there is a flood they get swept away. One photo I posted in another thread a mother and offspring,made a nest under a tree stump so the view they only nest very high is contradicted by what is seen in the wild. I do my general care differently,but I won't just suggest doing it but it has worked for me.

http://www.tarantulaforum.com/index.php?threads/4685/

 

[Poec54]

Avics needs cross ventilation and dry substrate. Does that cage allow those things? Not sure of the point of the inner tube.

 

[Alejando]

Thank you and I've seen a couple of videos and people using these containers. Can get them at walmart for a couple of dollars. But i did put a live Dracaena along with some fake plants. I also put a leaf up top and he started to Web this morning. Thanks for the tip!

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I don't know that style enclosure at all,first time to see it. I will say avics need space to climb if need be,a plant etc to anchor web. General care is to add a water dish and keep substrate dry,but these are fun arboreal species. In the wild they are seen making nests as low as few meters in houses,traveling over water.

They sometimes make nests so low,when there is a flood they get swept away. One photo I posted in another thread a mother and offspring,made a nest under a tree stump so the view they only nest very high is contradicted by what is seen in the wild. I do my general care differently,but I won't just suggest doing it but it has worked for me.

http://www.tarantulaforum.com/index.php?threads/4685/

Thank you and I've seen a couple of videos and people using these containers

 

[Alejando]

I've seen multiple sites and videos tell me to make sure I spray the container and keep the substrate moist? Still a sling and I'm new to arch. More of a reptile persob.

Avics needs cross ventilation and dry substrate. Does that cage allow those things? Not sure of the point of the inner tube.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Thank you and I've seen a couple of videos and people using these containers. Can get them at walmart for a couple of dollars. But i did put a live Dracaena along with some fake plants. I also put a leaf up top and he started to Web this morning. Thanks for the tip!


Thank you and I've seen a couple of videos and people using these conmntaint

Thank you for showing me something new I haven't seen before !

 

[Alejando]

The purpose of the tube is just to keep the humidity up

I've seen multiple sites and videos tell me to make sure I spray the container and keep the substrate moist? Still a sling and I'm new to arch. More of a reptile persob.

 

[Alejando]

Live Dracaena safe for an Avic container?

Thank you for showing me something new I haven't seen before !

 

[Alejando]

Pretty easy to make just a tube with holes n substrate at the bottom. Placed mine in the middle so when the humidity escapes the tube it just flows around the actual container itself. The one i build was made out of little bead containers that i drilled and glued together.also used decent sized grommets to cover the drilled holes. Leaves a safe hole to go through if wanted.

Thank you for showing me something new I haven't seen before !

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Live Dracaena safe for an Avic container?

Not sure of that,I can use very safe plants myself that need almost no sunlight at all but I stick to plastic ones.

 

[Alejando]

Here's a closer look comes in pieces so it's easier to clean, the bottom which is where the substrate is held comes off so you can change it when needed. Also you can is smaller grommets with a screen attached to one to enclose it. Looks pretty dope inside the enclosure as well!

Pretty easy to make just a tube with holes n substrate at the bottom. Placed mine in the middle so when the humidity escapes the tube it just flows around the actual container itself. The one i build was made out of little bead containers that i drilled and glued together.also used decent sized grommets to cover the drilled holes. Leaves a safe hole to go through if wanted.

 

[Martin Oosthuysen]

Here's a closer look comes in pieces so it's easier to clean, the bottom which is where the substrate is held comes off so you can change it when needed. Also you can is smaller grommets with a screen attached to one to enclose it. Looks pretty dope inside the enclosure as well!

I use something similar if I'm understanding the enclosure correctly,but from what I am also seeing it seems to be working for you ?

 

[Josh]

Very interesting enclosure. I'll have to keep a lookout for these at Walmart! How does your T seem to be liking it thus far? Is it meeting your requirements for his care?

 

[Alejando]

They were only like 7$ I believe I've seen a few videos of people from the UK using these as well. To answer your question tho is yes so far he's liking it and it's meeting his requirements. Just trying to learn more about arch Expecially Avics.

 

[Alejando]

So far yes it is just hoping it continues too like I said pretty new to archs. So just trying to make sure I've doing everything the best I can and learn new things.

I use something similar if I'm understanding the enclosure correctly,but from what I am also seeing it seems to be working for you ?

 

[Poec54]

I've seen multiple sites and videos tell me to make sure I spray the container and keep the substrate moist? Still a sling and I'm new to arch. More of a reptile persob.

The biggest killer of Avics in captivity, of all sizes, is moist, stuffy cages. Overmisting can be a huge problem. It's much easier to add moisture than to remove it from a cage. I mist my Avic slings once a week or so, very lightly and only on their silk, for drinking, not humidity. I don't hose down the cage. What happens all too often is people keep misting and misting, the substrate gets wet, the spider stops eating, and then dies. So many are lost this way, and yet care sheets say to keep misting them. You are aware that care sheets are notorious for containing bad info and advice. Videos aren't much better. Any fool can stand in front of a camera.

I used to lose some Avics too until I gave them dry substrate and more ventilation. Humidity is provided by a water bowl. They live up in trees where there's regular air movement and things dry out quickly after rains (as they do here in Florida too after our afternoon thunderstorms in the summer. Sunny, dark and rainy, and sunny again before nightfall). Avics aren't on the ground next to puddles.

This works. I have 90 Avics now (all sizes), 10 species. Two are currently sitting on sacs.

Be sure that in your quest for a nice looking cage that the spider's needs come first.

 

[Alejando]

Haven't really done any misting besides when I transferred to a new enclosure when I brought it home. The substrate is more of a light damp had to soak it to break it apart since I bought it in brick form

The biggest killer of Avics in captivity, of all sizes, is moist, stuffy cages. Overmisting can be a huge problem. It's much easier to add moisture than to remove it from a cage. I mist my Avic slings once a week or so, very lightly and only on their silk, for drinking, not humidity. I don't hose down the cage. What happens all too often is people keep misting and misting, the substrate gets wet, the spider stops eating, and then dies. So many are lost this way, and yet care sheets say to keep misting them. You are aware that care sheets are notorious for containing bad info and advice. Videos aren't much better. Any fool can stand in front of a camera.

I used to lose some Avics too until I gave them dry substrate and more ventilation. Humidity is provided by a water bowl. They live up in trees where there's regular air movement and things dry out quickly after rains (as they do here in Florida too after our afternoon thunderstorms in the summer. Sunny, dark and rainy, and sunny again before nightfall). Avics aren't on the ground next to puddles.

This works. I have 90 Avics now (all sizes), 10 species. Two are currently sitting on sacs.

Be sure that in your quest for a nice looking cage that the spider's needs come first.

 

[Alejando]

Sound okay?

Haven't really done any misting besides when I transferred to a new enclosure when I brought it home. The substrate is more of a light damp had to soak it to break it apart since I bought it in brick form