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<blockquote data-quote="Salatia" data-source="post: 229656" data-attributes="member: 38837"><p>I wasn't being funny or judgemental. There's no tone to written text, only the words used - any tone is inferred by the reader. Asking is the best thing to do, if in doubt. It's just also best not to assume someone is seeing things the same as you - hence asking you to highlight if there was a specific thing about the abdomen that worried you. 'Extended' might be that it looks longer than normal, larger than normal overall, or misshapen with a bulge. Things that look obvious to us in person or in an image may not appear the same to others, particularly as there's also interpretation of meaning involved. </p><p></p><p>I answered the question based on the information you provided - which was to say you thought the abdomen looked 'extended' and something was wrong with the colour, accompanied only by an image of a well fed tarantula in a web tube showing the ventral side of the abdomen, as far as I could tell. Colour can change depending on how the light strikes the hairs - which will also change with web in the way-, and varies within same species and sacmates, so isn't reliably indicative of anything without something else to support the idea that there's an issue as well as reasoning for the colour in question to be concerning. The abdomen was large in the sense that it fed enough to get a bit fatter than arboreals tend to (but psalmos sometimes seem more willing), but it was regularly shaped with no bulges or one side appearing larger than the other.</p><p></p><p>You refer to having seen some resources mention 'something similar' that was an issue, but don't say what the issue being discussed is in those cases. In the event someone has a specific concern it's best for them to mention it, since that can actually help indicate specific things to look for in images or descriptions. </p><p></p><p>So as far as I could tell you were concerned about something that looked entirely normal, or at the least not concerning. Usually it's best to watch for specific 'symptoms' or potential symptoms, because the vast majority of the time there is barely a norm for certain things for an individual tarantula, let alone within a species. Leaking fluid - clear is usually grooming fluid, their 'blood' is bluish -, abdomen is misshapen - ie bulges/non symmetrical, death curl (though apparently this is sometimes a comfortable grooming pose according to some of my Ts, why expend effort keeping your legs out if you don't have to) , DKS, a wrinkled abdomen in younger tarantulas for dehydration, those sorts of things. </p><p></p><p>I mainly mentioned beginner information because you referred to 'age', which usually means the person doesn't understand why this isn't a useful metric in tarantulas. Those aware of that typically refer to how long they've had the tarantula(s), and the DLS as far as they can judge. Even DLS is only really useful for certain things. </p><p></p><p>In the other picture, that tarantula is slimmer. More typical for arboreals but again that doesn't mean some won't eat more. They can certainly get a little thicker without issue. The ventral side of an abdomen also might appear wider in general, due to the overall shape of the abdomen, and the tarantula squeezed into a web tube means it's likely pressed a little against the surface, where the web combined with mostly a single colour helps obscure/limit vision of shadows that give a better sense of where the abdomen may be curving away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salatia, post: 229656, member: 38837"] I wasn't being funny or judgemental. There's no tone to written text, only the words used - any tone is inferred by the reader. Asking is the best thing to do, if in doubt. It's just also best not to assume someone is seeing things the same as you - hence asking you to highlight if there was a specific thing about the abdomen that worried you. 'Extended' might be that it looks longer than normal, larger than normal overall, or misshapen with a bulge. Things that look obvious to us in person or in an image may not appear the same to others, particularly as there's also interpretation of meaning involved. I answered the question based on the information you provided - which was to say you thought the abdomen looked 'extended' and something was wrong with the colour, accompanied only by an image of a well fed tarantula in a web tube showing the ventral side of the abdomen, as far as I could tell. Colour can change depending on how the light strikes the hairs - which will also change with web in the way-, and varies within same species and sacmates, so isn't reliably indicative of anything without something else to support the idea that there's an issue as well as reasoning for the colour in question to be concerning. The abdomen was large in the sense that it fed enough to get a bit fatter than arboreals tend to (but psalmos sometimes seem more willing), but it was regularly shaped with no bulges or one side appearing larger than the other. You refer to having seen some resources mention 'something similar' that was an issue, but don't say what the issue being discussed is in those cases. In the event someone has a specific concern it's best for them to mention it, since that can actually help indicate specific things to look for in images or descriptions. So as far as I could tell you were concerned about something that looked entirely normal, or at the least not concerning. Usually it's best to watch for specific 'symptoms' or potential symptoms, because the vast majority of the time there is barely a norm for certain things for an individual tarantula, let alone within a species. Leaking fluid - clear is usually grooming fluid, their 'blood' is bluish -, abdomen is misshapen - ie bulges/non symmetrical, death curl (though apparently this is sometimes a comfortable grooming pose according to some of my Ts, why expend effort keeping your legs out if you don't have to) , DKS, a wrinkled abdomen in younger tarantulas for dehydration, those sorts of things. I mainly mentioned beginner information because you referred to 'age', which usually means the person doesn't understand why this isn't a useful metric in tarantulas. Those aware of that typically refer to how long they've had the tarantula(s), and the DLS as far as they can judge. Even DLS is only really useful for certain things. In the other picture, that tarantula is slimmer. More typical for arboreals but again that doesn't mean some won't eat more. They can certainly get a little thicker without issue. The ventral side of an abdomen also might appear wider in general, due to the overall shape of the abdomen, and the tarantula squeezed into a web tube means it's likely pressed a little against the surface, where the web combined with mostly a single colour helps obscure/limit vision of shadows that give a better sense of where the abdomen may be curving away. [/QUOTE]
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